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A lengthy article that provides a far different perspective on the war in Ukraine that you won't read in the MSM. A well-documented, reasoned analysis of how we got here. A damning indictment of Biden and NATO as well as Zelensky.

Jacques Baud is a former colonel of the General Staff, ex-member of the Swiss strategic intelligence, specialist on Eastern countries. He was trained in the American and British intelligence services. He has served as Policy Chief for United Nations Peace Operations. As a UN expert on rule of law and security institutions, he designed and led the first multidimensional UN intelligence unit in the Sudan. He has worked for the African Union and was for 5 years responsible for the fight, at NATO, against the proliferation of small arms. He was involved in discussions with the highest Russian military and intelligence officials just after the fall of the USSR.

Within NATO, he followed the 2014 Ukrainian crisis and later participated in programs to assist the Ukraine. He is the author of several books on intelligence, war and terrorism, in particular Le Détournement published by SIGEST, Gouverner par les fake news, L'affaire Navalny. His latest book is Poutine, maître du jeu? published by Max Milo.

1 posted on 04/15/2022 4:27:56 PM PDT by kabar
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It must be possible since so many here know exactly what is happening… daily.

Plus they know exactly what is in Putin’s mind.

So there’s that…


2 posted on 04/15/2022 4:34:58 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything.)
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Thank you for posting this, which the rabid Ukraine supporters on FR would do well to read. It’s obvious they know next to nothing about the history of the area, especially in the 21st century when nefarious players started to take over the country, including Nuland and the entire state dept., the Biden Family of Grifters, and “intellectuals” like Semenyaka. It’s not David against Goliath like the media portrays.


3 posted on 04/15/2022 4:37:11 PM PDT by Prince of Space ( Let’s go, Brandon! )
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wish this would get widely read


5 posted on 04/15/2022 4:40:11 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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Thank you for posting this.


6 posted on 04/15/2022 4:40:43 PM PDT by laplata (")
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There are precious few independent voices. Telegram is one of them. Forget Twitter, all of the msm, obviously the State dept. and anything controlled by big tech. The Ukronazis pushing WW3 on the world is an even bigger scam than what Pfeizer pulled off.


7 posted on 04/15/2022 4:45:06 PM PDT by Antioch (Benedikt Gott Geschickt)
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Thanks, the title looks good—I assume whatever the answer is, according to the author, it is not an unqualified yes. That is a really good start. A headline—and likely an article—worth reading. But I wouldn’t want to break FR rules. So I’ll post first. THANKS AGAIN (Caps stuck, but it works)


8 posted on 04/15/2022 4:46:07 PM PDT by Hieronymus
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Thanks and Semper Fi. This is along with I have been getting from our people who are credible.


10 posted on 04/15/2022 4:50:06 PM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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Russia’s involvement in the separatist republics:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/25/russia-ukraine-soldier

The ideas that Russia only invaded Ukraine because Ukraine initiated the attack, and that Putin never intended to replace Zelensky seem implausible.


13 posted on 04/15/2022 4:53:15 PM PDT by throwthebumsout
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FR’s GloboHomoNazi Russophobe contingent ain’t gonna like this.


14 posted on 04/15/2022 4:58:32 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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Rooskies crossed the border uninvited into Ukraine and got their butt kicked. Pretty simple


15 posted on 04/15/2022 4:58:33 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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Wait, so the original publication is Unz Review?

That’s the go-to if you want to read about how the Holocaust never happened.


17 posted on 04/15/2022 5:04:31 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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Interestingly, another Swiss Red Cross Officer also deduced (from his experience serving in the Swiss Government), similar circumstances regarding Ukraine, Donetsk, Lugansk, Crimea and Russia.

He Blogs as "The Saker".

18 posted on 04/15/2022 5:07:14 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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We can never spell KusterFluck without “U”.
Putin was really smart to give his speech about all of this.
But it was longer than the attention span of many people.
And I doubt Joe Biden could summarize it.


21 posted on 04/15/2022 5:11:43 PM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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1) There is no more reason to trust a word this guy says as opposed to anyone else. Just as anyone else could be a paid agent of Soros, the Deep State, Zelensky, or the Boogeyman himself, this guy could be a paid agent of the Russians. Absolutely no way to know.<p

2) Regardless, not a word of what was written changes the inarguable fact that Russia invaded Ukraine. That single fact, standing alone, makes it clear to me which side we should be on.


29 posted on 04/15/2022 5:30:24 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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For later


30 posted on 04/15/2022 5:31:43 PM PDT by CodeJockey (Politicians are to America as oligarchs are to Russia. )
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This article confirms what many of us, who have been on the ground in Ukraine, have been saying from day 1. Read it.


31 posted on 04/15/2022 5:34:43 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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Let's try to examine the roots of the Ukrainian conflict. It starts with those who for the last eight years have been talking about "separatists" or "independentists" from Donbass. This is a misnomer. The referendums conducted by the two self-proclaimed Republics of Donetsk and Lugansk in May 2014, were not referendums of "independence" (независимость), as some unscrupulous journalists have claimed, but referendums of "self-determination" or "autonomy" (самостоятельность). The qualifier "pro-Russian" suggests that Russia was a party to the conflict, which was not the case, and the term "Russian speakers" would have been more honest. Moreover, these referendums were conducted against the advice of Vladimir Putin.

This is completely false. The OSCE has tracked tens of thousands of people in combat fatigues coming and going from Russia into the Donbas since the "civil war" started, including armored convoys, tanks, heavy artillery, and military resupplies in order to give more ammo to the Russian soldiers who were constantly firing into Ukraine and killing Ukrainian soldiers.

Ukraine never fulfilled Minsk because the Russians were constantly fortifying the Donbass.

These forces have since then terrorized the Donbass, turning it into an open air gulag (as some Ukrainians trapped in the Donbass have described it), while killing and wounding Ukrainian soldiers daily.

I will add that Minsk was forced upon Ukraine by the usual suspects: the Germans and the French, both of whom, but especially the former, have appeased and surrendered to Russia's aggression continually since 2008 when Russia invaded and raped Georgia. The Germans in particular under Merkel have done everything possible to weaken Europe and make it dependent on Russia.

and despite rather crude allegations, there were no deliveries of weapons and military equipment from Russia.

The OSCE has FOOTAGE of Russian forces going back and forth from Russia into Ukraine, including tracking these forces to resupply depots. Here is an example:

https://euromaidanpress.com/2018/08/11/osce-drone-films-trucks-entering-donbas-from-russia-at-night/

This is hardly "crude." This individual is outright lying to the reader and misrepresenting the evidence that has been gathered over the past 8 years of the militarization of the Donbas by Russia.

The rebels were armed thanks to the defection of Russian-speaking Ukrainian units that went over to the rebel side

Thousands of modern Russian equipment, including tanks and heavy artillery, have been documented in Donbass. These were not from "Ukrainian defectors".

If that were true, Ukraine would have steamrolled over the Donbass years ago, slauthering all the Russian orcs and goblins using equipment that was now obsolete in comparison to the new and improved Ukrainian military.

The truth is Ukraine never went into Donbass because it was occupied by Russian forces.

In October 2015, Vasyl Hrytsak, director of the Ukrainian Security Service (SBU), confessed that only 56 Russian fighters had been observed in the Donbass.

The author takes it out of context. The SBU director is speaking of verified Russians. This is very different from the 30,000 people in military uniforms observed in 2015 crossing the border into Ukraine by the OSCE in that same year. Those we can "see" crossing. The 56 are those we have identified and registered as known members of the Russian military, which confirms, in any case, the presence of Russian forces in Donbass.

In October/November 2017, 70% of conscripts did not show up for the "Fall 2017" recall campaign. This is not counting suicides and desertions (often over to the autonomists), which reached up to 30 percent of the workforce in the ATO area. Young Ukrainians refused to go and fight in the Donbass and preferred emigration, which also explains, at least partially, the demographic deficit of the country.

I did not take a deep dive into this article to confirm all the data the author claims exists therein, except that the 70% quote is a fabrication. The article was published in April 2017, but the author here quotes it as having data from November 2017.

I got tired of reading this article and checking its sources after this point.

35 posted on 04/15/2022 5:43:25 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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Very informative article. I urge everyone with an open mind about the war in Ukraine to read this.

The mainstream media is so full of lies. The only exception I can remember is retired Colonel MacGregor commenting on Fox News.

The US foreign policy objective here is clearly to attrit the Russians to the very last dead Ukrainian soldier.

36 posted on 04/15/2022 5:45:01 PM PDT by OldCorps
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Ukraine has been shelling Donbas ever since 2014. Why haven’t they indicted for war crimes.


54 posted on 04/15/2022 6:21:35 PM PDT by McGruff (A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes)
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Putin’s Sudetenland.


64 posted on 04/15/2022 6:38:29 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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