Posted on 04/09/2022 10:15:52 PM PDT by MAGA2017
Why do they have to sell them.
This sounds a bit like making up a story and then forcing people to buy the real estate mentioned in the story.
And the only people living near that carbon reserve will be elitists who can afford it.
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Before I left that once beautiful state, the some ecologically-minded, tree-hugging, animal-activist, climate warming, elite, trust funder opened a Wild Bird Shop down in the valley along the highway in the 1990s where you could buy all manner of things to fed and care for wild birds, including seeds that had lots of non-native weeds. He then built a 3,000sq ft two story A-Frame-like home on 200 acres right on the property line with the Olympic National Forest.
If you looked from the highway up to the mountains, you could make out his home nestled along a ridge line surrounded by forest, just before the Olympic Mountains began in earnest. His view encompassed the entire valley and up to the snow capped mountains and over to the Strait of Juan de Fuca and distant Victoria BC.
I think that’s a square less than 4 miles per side.
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10,000 acres = 15.6 sq miles. Small timber companies own more than that.
Near by are the Olympic National Forest = 628,115 acre (which borders) and the Olympic National Park = 922,650 acres
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1,550,765 acres or 2,423 sq miles
There is some (or was) logging in the ONF and none in the ONP (not even blow downs). Quite a “carbon sink”.
I was born in Port Angeles.
The program in Washington is launching with protection of forests in Whatcom, Thurston, King and Grays Harbor counties.
I wonder how many acres of pasture, farmland and forest land are being bulldozed for solar and wind farms? In effect replacing natural recycling of CO2 by plants with man made energy production devices.
more diabolical silliness
“Purchasers are expected to be larger corporations seeking to achieve reductions in their carbon emissions, said Commissioner of Public Lands Hilary Franz, adding that in the first 10 years of the program, the DNR hopes to sell 900,000 credits reducing carbon emissions to the atmosphere by the equivalent of 2 billion vehicle miles traveled.”
The selling of indulgences is nothing new.
Environmentalists seem to have forgotten that trees are renewable resources. With today’s forestry practices, new trees are immediately planted after logging. In the U.S., at least; this is not necessarily the case in places like Brazil or Southeast Asia, which will be very happy to increase timber harvests to supply U.S. markets deprived of domestic production.
I must have gone to the wrong school. A sq mile is 640 acres. 4 sq miles totals 2560 acres. 4 X 640.
Our farm must be a lot bigger than I thought it was. No wonder the taxes are so high. Your math would equal each sq mile at 2,500 acres. 4 miles X 4 miles would be 16 sq miles not 4.
What happens to the carbon credits then?
Lease lands they don’t own so they can dispense (sell) out ‘credits’ for a problem that doesn’t exist. Added incentive is that if the erstwhile ‘carbon credit’ buyer doesn’t agree, they get hounded and punished by their state government rules.
Nice scam. Al Gore got stinking rich swimming in those same waters....
640 acres per square mile. IIRC, they used to call that a ‘section.’ So 10,000 acres would be a little over 15 square miles if I did my math correctly.
IIRC, the Roman Catholic Church latched on that kind of thing way back (stopped in the mid-1500s, though). They called it “indulgences.”
If I had tried this when I was in college 50 years ago, I would be locked up for fraud scamming. 10,000 acres is only 15.6 square miles or a patch of ground 3.94 miles square, hardly enough trees to make a difference in this world.
What happens to the carbon credits then?
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I would say, the state should return them to the donors?!
I recall buying some “virtual” currency for my kids when they played a massive internet combat game to by virtual weapons so they could gain virtual credits to fight virtual enemies and obtain virtual esteem. But, when it occurred to me that I was the only one using “real” currency I put a stop to it.
The carbon credit is even more ephemeral than the virtual money.
Lease lands they don’t own so they can dispense (sell) out ‘credits’ for a problem that doesn’t exist.
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Little correction - I believe they own the land, sort of. It is the State trust land. This land is supposed to pay for State schools.
If they can succeed in this racket, the Washington State schools could be for some windfall!
10000 acres= 15 square miles.
3 miles by 5 miles.
The purest of pure symbolism.
I misread the “least the trees out” part. My bad. But don’t count on any state government holding to their word about what monies and such are supposed to used for what. Seems like one government and/or legislature never feels committed to what was promised by previous ones. I remember the beginnings of the Georgia Lottery here and what the proceeds of that were supposed to be used for....
“If I had tried this when I was in college 50 years ago, I would be locked up for fraud scamming. 10,000 acres is only 15.6 square miles or a patch of ground 3.94 miles square, hardly enough trees to make a difference in this world.”
About 2 hours to the West of me is South Central Texas (South of San Antonio) 10,000 acres would be considered a small ranch just a bit above a hobby, hunting, weekend place. Smells like a scam to me.
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