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The serial number proves that the missile that fell on Kramatorsk belongs to the Armed Forces of Ukraine
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Posted on 04/09/2022 2:50:29 PM PDT by navysealdad

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To: Chad C. Mulligan

We have an awful lot of neo-Nazi-loving Ukrainian trolls here too. IJS...


81 posted on 04/09/2022 5:40:15 PM PDT by Prince of Space ( Let’s go, Brandon! )
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To: whitney69
Serial numbers could easily have been switched by either group or purposely misread

Also the Tochka was produced at the end of the Soviet era. If anyone has dealt with military equipment, they know that serial numbers for equipment are not kept together. Units get transferred, equipment is sent for repairs and then put into general inventory, and missiles get traded for cases of vodka (or so I've heard). The Ukrainians could have the serial numbers immediately before and after this one which would give no indication of whether this one was Russian or Ukranian now.

82 posted on 04/09/2022 5:56:01 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (If Hitler invaded Hell, I would make at least a favourable reference of the Devil...-Churchill)
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To: Prince of Space

There is a civil war underway on Free Republic. JimRob’s view seems to be that there are good people on both sides.


83 posted on 04/09/2022 6:03:15 PM PDT by Lisbon1940 (I don’t see why they would)
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To: Prince of Space

No - but so far, they’ve edged closer to the truth than the good old Russians. World-class liars and spiers.


84 posted on 04/09/2022 6:10:24 PM PDT by Chainmail (99.36% of all statistics are made up on the spot)
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To: Roccus

Fool me once (pandemic) shame on you,

Fool me twice (Ukraine) shame on ME!

Seems to apply here. But as PTBarnum once said, “There’s a sucker born every minute.”


85 posted on 04/09/2022 6:12:13 PM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: navysealdad

This whole thing is a bizarre, creepy show-biz arena. Sadly, I think it was concocted to make it appear that Biden is a great war-time leader, but he can’t even find his ice cream cone any more!

America! Good grief! Unfortunately, it seems that many are easily distracted & not alert to the swamp shenanigans. We’re being destroyed and most Americans have yet to raise an eyebrow!


86 posted on 04/09/2022 6:12:24 PM PDT by Shery ( )
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To: oblomov

Thanks for the heads-up.


87 posted on 04/09/2022 6:13:37 PM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: navysealdad

https://youtu.be/sWLl0aGQEPw


88 posted on 04/09/2022 6:55:45 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Comitia asinorum et rhinocerum delenda sunt.)
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To: AnthonySoprano

Makeup and eyeliner. Vindman probably wears heels too.


89 posted on 04/09/2022 6:57:59 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Comitia asinorum et rhinocerum delenda sunt.)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

And he still can’t open an umbrella by himself.


90 posted on 04/09/2022 7:00:25 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Comitia asinorum et rhinocerum delenda sunt.)
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To: Lisbon1940

That’s the way it should be. Open uncensored debate.


91 posted on 04/09/2022 7:01:25 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Comitia asinorum et rhinocerum delenda sunt.)
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To: navysealdad

RIA Novosti (Russian: РИА Новости), sometimes referred to as RIAN (РИАН) or RIA (РИА) is a Russian state-owned domestic news agency.


92 posted on 04/09/2022 7:12:01 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: navysealdad

A simpler explanation might be that Ukrainian, not well maintained, missile fizzled out and hit the station.


93 posted on 04/09/2022 7:15:48 PM PDT by dynachrome ("I will not be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: navysealdad

It looks like I don’t really care, but I can’t buy this anymore than I can buy all of what the Ukraine puts out.

All news out of Russia is now coming from state run
news sites.

I can’t trust that anymore than I can trust our own
news media these days.


94 posted on 04/09/2022 7:44:06 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: KarlInOhio

All good points. And when these countries are tussling for money and products to lead the world just like in the US, the lies flow like rivers to the sea. Let’s face it, so many people are for the US to supply weapons and boots to their civil war, that they don’t even know what is and is not truth or close to it, our getting into it further. And the Russian capture of an USAF major general assisting in the movement and logistics of weapons along with their combat uses to the Ukraine shortly ago, may have already committed us to the skirmish. And how many people are going to freeze to death in the US when Putin cuts off 10% of our natural gas that is imported from them?

For a list of the top 10 currently being imported from Russia:

https://www.barrons.com/articles/russia-tariffs-imports-51647632904

Biden has placed us in a position of submission to Russia on these and many more products we can not make up. He has failed us as a president and an American.

wy69


95 posted on 04/09/2022 8:41:06 PM PDT by whitney69
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“False-flags are Ukraine’s stock-in-trade.”

They were good before the CIA came in, in 2010. Now they’re the best in the world at it.

Guess which foreign country has the most registered agents via FARA in the US?

Saudia Arabia? Good guess, but no.
Qatar? Ditto.
China? Nope.
Russia? Nyet.

Yup, it’s Ukraine. By far. Something like 2,500, iirc. Over double the number 2. Why do they need that many registered agents (for the government of Ukraine)?

To bribe everybody and their brother, if course. Bribery is in their culture; in their DNA. They’re better at it than even china.

Who do they bribe? Politicians, of course. But also individuals in the media. Reporters, editors, columnists. Anyone who can do anything favorable to Ukraine, wether it’s legal or not, gets bribed.

Who is/was in charge of the whole semi-secret shebang here?

Alexandria Chalupa. Remember her? With Eric CIAramella at her beck and call, inside the CIA. And Vindman brrothers. All Ukranians. CIAramella was in charge of the mystery snipers that shot 100 people in 2014, to launch the CIA Maidan ops for regime change there. Yup. He organized it. That why CIAramella is He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named.

They tried to take down Trump. Ukraine and the CIA are joined at the hip, and loathsome.

But hey—Support the latest thing!


96 posted on 04/09/2022 10:45:06 PM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Putin is behaving rationally.The war is on Biden and Obama. )
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To: navysealdad

Let’s say. This is a friendly fire incident. This one time does not offset the hundreds to thousands of deaths the Russians committed against civilians. It could be argued that at there are legitimate military targets that civilians happen to be in, but handcuffed families in Bucha attest to the types of slaughter that can be proven to done by Russian forces. More will come out as to the flattening of maripol and to the regulars for civilian casualties there.
I will say the Russians seemed not to want to indiscriminately destroy at the start but frustration and revenge are creeping into their planing and tactics.


97 posted on 04/10/2022 2:38:46 AM PDT by Liaison (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

Thanks for this great intel!


98 posted on 04/10/2022 12:13:48 PM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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To: Shery

Agree!


99 posted on 04/10/2022 12:33:28 PM PDT by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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