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To: JonPreston

And, IMO, you are a keyboard idiot, so we’re even.


32 posted on 04/09/2022 2:03:41 PM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: Magnum44

I’m an American. First and always.


33 posted on 04/09/2022 2:04:21 PM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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I would imagine this 400,000 number includes many who don’t mind being yanked out of eastern conflict zones into safer locations in mother Russia, and some who are actually there against their will (probably from places like Kharkiv where independence from Ukraine is less popular and wouldn’t get a majority of votes). Perhaps the Russians did this to have pawns, or perhaps they didn’t want the civilian casualty totals to rise as much but had no safe place inside Ukraine to move the civilians.

Disclaimer — not a big Putin fan, and think the “special operation” is an illegal incursion into a sovereign state. But at the end of the day I would imagine this will turn into something more complicated, just like everything else here.

The only way out of this is to give Putin meaningful guarantees of Ukrainian neutrality and reinforce earlier agreements about what limitations there would be on NATO in eastern Europe. As distasteful as it may be to deal with this guy, we all know that our own national governments are a shabby collection of frauds, impostors and scoundrels, so in no really good position to lecture even Putin (or Xi for that matter). There is only one country in Europe with a sensible government and that is Hungary. A few others are so-so (Sweden, Finland, some of the Baltics, Poland, Slovakia).


36 posted on 04/09/2022 2:14:26 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell ("Who is winning this war, commander?" "I don't know, everyone seems to be losing today.")
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