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The Constitution Creates a Republic, Not a Democracy
Townhall.com ^ | April 6, 2022 | Jonathan Emord

Posted on 04/06/2022 11:07:49 AM PDT by Kaslin

Leading Democrats advocate rule by their President through executive order without resort to Congress. They favor elimination of the electoral college as “anti-democratic.” They favor adding to the number of justices on the Supreme Court those preferred by Democrats until they dilute the conservative majority and render the Court reflective of the will of Congress and no longer independent. They support speech codes on college campuses to eliminate dissenting conservative views. They support cancel culture and Big Tech censorship as a means of ensuring that voices dissenting from their orthodoxies are suppressed. They support expansion of administrative state regulation to circumvent Congress so that climate change and social engineering initiatives may proceed at the will of the executive branch beyond the extent palatable to the American people. In short in the struggle between state power and individual liberty, they favor biased application of state power (supporting it in violation of rights whenever they favor the ends, and opposing it whenever they oppose the ends). That bias, or unequal justice, is not new but an outgrowth of the very Hegelian principles of collectivism that drove Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez perceives a “very real risk” that democracy will disappear. In reality, they use the term “democracy” as a cover for what is in fact authoritarian rule. To them, rights are cognizable only to the extent those rights support their chosen exercise of governing power.

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1 posted on 04/06/2022 11:07:49 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

The Constitution created a Republic.

Our politicians killed it when they ignored that the Kenyan from Indonesia is not a natural born citizen as required by that Constitution.


2 posted on 04/06/2022 11:09:25 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Kaslin

This is not 1950 anymore.

The Constitution is dead.


3 posted on 04/06/2022 11:11:38 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Who saves the nation breaks no law)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

The People created the Constitution and authorized limited government. A ‘people’ was a Citizen of his/her state. There was not such thing as being a Citizen of *the* United States.

That all changed with the 14th Amendment, where all of a sudden, in addition to being a Citizen of your state of domicile, you also became a new Citizen of the “UNITED STATES”. This was an early step towards taking power from the States, and handing it over to the national government.


4 posted on 04/06/2022 11:18:21 AM PDT by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: Kaslin

A republic is a specific form of representative democracy, whereas a democracy is a general term for a government controlled by the people. Ironically the Democrats want neither. They use the term ‘democracy’ to describe their iron-fisted minority control over the people.


5 posted on 04/06/2022 11:19:16 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Kaslin

They are also creating a class of “political prisoners” by maligning, convening tribunals composed of legislators as pseudo-grand juries (no separation of powers), issuing orders to the DOJ to arrest political rally attendees (have you heard of the DOJ refusing to arrest anyone accused? - Even though the legislature is not the DOJ’s boss, they do control the pocketbook that they operate from - this is why the concept of separation of powers is central to the Constitution, to prevent such coercion), and carelessly throwing away the legal concepts of Attorney/Client privilege and Executive privilege, but only when it suits them.

The existence of political prisoners in the US is completely counter to the principles this country was founded upon


6 posted on 04/06/2022 11:25:42 AM PDT by jpp113
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To: Kaslin

What fascination do Republicans have with insisting that the Constitution does not create a democracy? It’s stupid for so many reasons:

1. It’s simply false. It creates a representative (indirect) democracy, but to the degree that Congress and the various States are responsive to the electorate, we’re a democracy. To the extent they’re not, it’s a bug, not a feature.

2. It’s politically stupid as all hell. Whatever bizarre quabble such idiots have with the term, “democracy,” it’s definition to American voters is, “what makes America great.” Telling Americans that America isn’t supposed to be a democracy is about as smart as telling your girlfriend that she’s fat, stupid, and has terrible taste in men.

3. It’s the work of Joe Biden and the Deep State. Whatever intents the authors have, they only serve to justify political elites who seek to nullify conservatives. All those intelligence agents who lied about Hunter Biden’s laptop? In their minds, they were protecting the Republic against those crazy plebes.


7 posted on 04/06/2022 11:29:07 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Kaslin
Democracy is majority mob rule. It provides no protection nor voices for the minority. We are witnessing this right now with the Executive and Legislative branch controlled by Dem/socs/commies. It's like 2 wolves and 1 lamb deciding what's for dinner. The FF's knew this and even the ancient Greeks knew this.

Unfortunately, America is following in the same failed policies of the Greeks - corruption, liberty suppression through legislation, overly powerful Emperors and now Presidents, and a non-caring populace. The later Emperors of Greece thought they could keep the populace pacified with "bread and circus". That is exactly what the Democrats are about...give the populace free stuff.

8 posted on 04/06/2022 11:29:58 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (USA Birth Certificate - 1787. Death Certificate - 2021. )
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To: dangus

The people chose Donald Trump? This is a Republic, not a democracy!

Citizens are being censored, cancelled, sent to prison, erased? This is a Republic, not a democracy!

You dare rebel against the elites? This is a Republic, not a democracy!


9 posted on 04/06/2022 11:31:50 AM PDT by dangus
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To: C210N

” A ‘people’ was a Citizen of his/her state. There was not such thing as being a Citizen of *the* United States.”

That sir is absolutely correct. I think it was Robert E. Lee when offered the job of commander of the Union army told Lincoln, He could not lift arms against his country. Meaning Virginia.

Prior 1861: The United States are
Post 1865: The United States is


10 posted on 04/06/2022 11:34:49 AM PDT by Tupelo (“Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*ck things up” (Barack Obama))
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To: Kaslin

“Leading Democrats advocate rule by their President through executive order without resort to Congress.”

I’m not sure that’s just a Rat problem. If you look at recent presidencies Biden has the highest average number of EOs per year, at 73. Trump is actually second, at 55. Reagan, Bush Sr, and Clinton are all in the 40’s while W and Obama are in the 30’s. Number of EOs seems to be a function of partisanship, rather than party.

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/executive-orders

“They favor elimination of the electoral college as “anti-democratic.”

The Electoral College renders my vote irrelevant by ensuring that no matter how many times I vote red my state’s 54 votes all go to the Rat candidate. If it were gone tomorrow, I wouldn’t miss it, assuming they got rid of it legally through a Constitutional Amendment. I’m tired of being treated as 3/8 of an Iowan solely based on where I live.

“They favor adding to the number of justices on the Supreme Court those preferred by Democrats until they dilute the conservative majority and render the Court reflective of the will of Congress and no longer independent.”

This is a problem, but I don’t see their court-packing scheme going anywhere. Even FDR never managed to pack the courts, and FDR was a lot more competent and popular than Xiden. The bigger problem is their latest (legal) addition to the Supreme Court can’t define what a woman is, even though she herself is one.

“In short in the struggle between state power and individual liberty, they favor biased application of state power (supporting it in violation of rights whenever they favor the ends, and opposing it whenever they oppose the ends).”

Real conservatism does indeed favor smaller government, but I have seen plenty of Freepers trying to peddle their brand of authoritarianism here, whether it’s locking up parents who choose to mask their kids, or banning books they don’t like from libraries (beyond reasonable concerns like no pornography in elementary school libraries), or supporting Putin because he says nasty things about America, which they interpret as being against Biden. If you favor smaller government, you’re basically without a party in today’s world.


11 posted on 04/06/2022 11:35:15 AM PDT by FormerFRLurker
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Exactly.


12 posted on 04/06/2022 11:39:13 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: dangus
WHAT EVIDENCE DO YOU HAVE THAT THE CONSTITUTION CREATES A DEMOCRACY?
13 posted on 04/06/2022 11:44:46 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Lurkinanloomin

“Our politicians killed it when they ignored that the Kenyan from Indonesia is not a natural born citizen as required by that Constitution.”

What about the Federal Reserve and fiat money?


14 posted on 04/06/2022 11:56:13 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: Kaslin
The author makes one glaring mistake:

The Constitution did not create a "republic," it created a "federal republic" where each state was guaranteed a republican form of government. The people within each of the several states already had their own constitutions which gave them local republics.

This is a very important distinction.

The people of each state were entitled to a representative government within their states, but the states themselves were also entitled to a representative government within the federal structure, too. It's at the federal level where the states lost their representation when the state legislatures lost the power to choose their own Senators.

-PJ

15 posted on 04/06/2022 12:04:34 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: Kaslin
A few important concepts embraced by a republic is that "representatives" represent the desires of those they represent. Furthermore, they also represent those who did not vote for them, but happen to live in their district and possess their equal rights. Lawmaking is then based upon compromise between opposing views; but, always for the good of the nations and its citizens.

Has anyone seen that sort of behavior lately?

16 posted on 04/06/2022 12:07:28 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: dangus

You are incorrect. In a true democracy all citizens vote on all issues. That concept gives rise to a democracy being described as two wolves and one sheep deciding on dinner. In a republic, qualified and elected scholars form compromise solutions in order to satisfy all opposing views/


17 posted on 04/06/2022 12:10:45 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: dangus

Your grasp of Constitutional principles is quite unimpressive.


18 posted on 04/06/2022 12:11:11 PM PDT by Radix (Politicians; the Law and the Profits )
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To: Kaslin

And that’s part of the reason they hate it so.

On the subject of hate, isn’t it interesting how often the
Left accuses the people on the right of hate?

It’s because the Left thinks that everyone thinks like they
do, and they are mired in it 24/7/365, a myriad of topics.


19 posted on 04/06/2022 12:36:26 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: Kaslin
The Scottish Jurist and Historian Sir Alex Fraser Tyler published a collection of lectures in 1801. He advanced a theory of democracy based on historical observation:
20 posted on 04/06/2022 12:46:03 PM PDT by upchuck (The longer I remain unjabbed with the clot-shot, the more evidence I see supporting my decision.)
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