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Is the Bucha Massacre A Ukrainian False Flag?
Helleninscope ^ | 5 April 22 | Larry Johnson

Posted on 04/05/2022 4:27:48 PM PDT by delta7

Bucha is the latest shiny object that the Western cats are chasing mindlessly without taking time to think critically about what Russia is actually doing on the ground. Russia’s invasion on February 24 was not a classic military attack. What do I mean? If Russia was intent on conquering and subjugating Ukraine without regard to the fate of Ukrainian civilians it would have launched massive missile and airstrikes on all major cities, bridges, airfields, railroads and communication systems. It did not do that. Not my opinion.

The first phase of Russia’s special military operation consisted of the following:

Moved troops and armored columns into Ukraine from three directions–North, East and South. Deployed only 200,000 troops while maintaining key reserves inside Russia along the Ukrainian border against a Ukrainian Army estimated to number 600,000. Avoided attacking communication systems leaving cell phone and internet largely intact. Took control of the largest nuclear power plant in Europe–Zaporizhzhya Nuclear Power Plant–but kept the electricity flowing. Supported offensives by the Luhansk and Donetsk People’s Republics against Ukrainian forces in the East. Gradually surrounded Kiev from the North but did not fight any key battles to occupy outlying cities. Destroyed Ukrainian ground radar, key airfields and military bases in Western Ukraine with precision missiles. Sealed the southern coast of Ukraine with the Russian Navy. Launched an assault on Mariupol, a key Ukrainian port in the South, and systematically annihilated the neo-Nazi AZOV battalion (Russia now controls all of Mariupol except for the steel plant and continues to methodically eliminate the remaining defenders). The immediate effect of this operation divided and froze the Ukrainian Army in four geographical regions-North, South, East and West. During the first two weeks the Ukrainians and NATO did not know where Russia’s major blow would fall. Russia’s initial success in eliminating Ukraine’s Air Force as a combat effective unit and the destruction of key military bases and fuel depots made it impossible for Ukraine to dispatch reinforcements to Donbas and Mariupol.

During the past week Russia has effected a tactical redeployment of forces that originally surrounded Kiev. It is reported that those units moved west and are likely to be used as block force that will be part of a broader effort to defeat the bulk of the Ukraine Army now virtually surrounded in the eastern part of the Donbas.

With its limited ability to move troops or resupply frontline forces, Ukraine is relying on propaganda and information warfare to try to weaken Russia and entice NATO to join the fray. Here is a good summary of these efforts courtesy of Nighvision:

For instance, when the Russian POW torture video came out, it was Ukraine that cried “fake” until days later all western ‘authorities’ were forced to admit it was real. When the ‘maternity hospital’ false flag in Mariupol occurred, Kyiv supporters blamed Russia and once again Russia was the one proven right and vindicated when the pregnant girl at the center of it herself released an interview completely refuting Ukrainian lies, and stating that not only did Ukrainian soldiers turn the hospital into a barracks but stole the precious food from pregnant women and then shelled the hospital themselves. When Ukraine claimed Russia bombed an ‘innocent’ civilian mall, yet the very next moment the Russian MOD released detailed videos showing precisely how Ukrop forces positioned mobile artillery in the parking garage of the said ‘mall’. When Ukrops claimed Russia tried to blow up the Zaporizhzhia plant, yet security footage showed that as a Russian security force arrived, it was fired upon by an RPG from Ukrop positions in one of the administrative buildings of the plant. When the famed American journalist was killed in Irpin right outside Kiev a month ago, and all Ukrainian supporters shouted Russia, but the entire incident was quickly swept under the rug when the journalist’s own friend/companion in an interview stated they were fired upon by Ukrop troops at a Ukrop checkpoint miles away from the nearest Russian forces.


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To: Mariner

When you rule through fear, when you poison and defenestrate your enemies, realism and truth are hard to come by. When you’ve been in a self-created bubble for 20 years of power, you have yes men who tell you what you want to hear while they line their own pockets.


101 posted on 04/05/2022 5:52:21 PM PDT by CrazyCatChick (DEATH POKE!)
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To: FLT-bird

I did.

Found nothing.


102 posted on 04/05/2022 5:53:46 PM PDT by FreshPrince
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To: BenLurkin

Well, then you’ll be shot for sure.


103 posted on 04/05/2022 5:54:41 PM PDT by refermech
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To: ought-six

Because they’re scared Zelensky will have them dissolved?


104 posted on 04/05/2022 5:57:29 PM PDT by Rusty0604 (" When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: delta7

LOL! Another obscure and tripe conspiracy steaming pile from nobody Larry ‘Stooge’ Johnson.

His pathetic take is 100% conjecture and bias supposition nonsense that’s supported only by his personal conclusions.

Nothing in his keyboard ramblings are proven, only parroted nonsense he found. He spreads propaganda and unverified claims by other propagandists who parrot falsehoods written by more driveling conspiracy spinners that make their own conclusions, manipulate facts and change up locations and timelines to fit their bias narratives.

Larry Johnson is a false flag.


105 posted on 04/05/2022 5:57:42 PM PDT by Bellagio
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To: McGruff

Russian atrocities in Bucha Massacre.
You keep saying that but where is the evidence that the Russians did it and not the Ukrainians?
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Exactly, to early to decide…..but the war cheerleaders must demonize the opponents, The fact is both sides are committing atrocities. Ukraine has many ethnic Russians, and Ukraine knows they can not trust a large percentage of their population. Many reports of “ Russian sympathizers” being “ disappeared “.


106 posted on 04/05/2022 5:58:52 PM PDT by delta7
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To: Rusty0604

“Because they’re scared Zelensky will have them dissolved?”

Wouldn’t that be nice! The UN is as functional as tits on a bull.


107 posted on 04/05/2022 6:01:44 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Pelham
"My dad was a WWII veteran in the 7th Army. Among the unsettling things that he witnessed was anarchy breaking out as civilian law and order collapsed in the wake of the army.

Gangs take over. Vendettas get settled. Civilians are prey. The massacre in Bucha could be Russian war crimes or it could be some other agenda playing out. Or a mixture of several. There’s no way for us to know at our distant remove. The locals might not even be certain."

Thank you for the common sense reminder.

What strikes me is the phoney shock and outrage when we see civilians being killed during war when a few weeks ago we saw lots of Ukrainian video featuring civilians lining up to get their brand new AKs.

108 posted on 04/05/2022 6:03:02 PM PDT by moehoward (.)
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To: FLT-bird
I'm listening to the guys at The Duran.

They absolutely hate the globalist neocon stooges who are running this Ukraine Mittshow.

It's nice to not have to listen the Wall Of Neocon War Propaganda.

109 posted on 04/05/2022 6:03:12 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Bellagio

These lunatics rarely respond back I’ve noticed. You can tear them down with facts, video, media and they’ll just say it’s fake.

This is a very nasty and bad situation. You see it with the will smith slap a lot on here (it was fake! oh) and so much worse on this russian invasion stuff. People make up their minds first and then pick and choose whatever whacko conspiracy fits. It’s confirmation bias at the worst.


110 posted on 04/05/2022 6:04:02 PM PDT by Houserino
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To: moehoward

God forbid anyone take up arms to defend themselves. Better if russian stomps them out first right?


111 posted on 04/05/2022 6:05:05 PM PDT by Houserino
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To: delta7

That’s interesting experience. What time period were you over there?


112 posted on 04/05/2022 6:05:54 PM PDT by Rusty0604 (" When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: Mariner
I find it interesting that a Class of 2021 n00b is telling a Class of 98 freeper that he's a "bad guy", don't you?

I think the Schwab stooge who is berating you should turn off MSNBC and get a life.

113 posted on 04/05/2022 6:07:02 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: FreshPrince

Then you didn’t look.


114 posted on 04/05/2022 6:08:40 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: tlozo

That man has been identified as Igor Sukhenko, a known combatant from the village Motyzhin.

Show some respect and stop using that photo as a prop.


115 posted on 04/05/2022 6:10:53 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: Mariner

REEEEE! You don’t support commie Russia! You’re stupid! REEEEEE!!!


116 posted on 04/05/2022 6:11:10 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: Lurker

I’ll try harder. Promise.


117 posted on 04/05/2022 6:12:39 PM PDT by CrazyCatChick (DEATH POKE!)
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To: Reaganez
Ukrainians bypassed Russian patrols when Bucha was under Russian control, tied up and shot Ukranian civilians in the back of the head,

If Ukrainian paramilitary forces committed this summary justice, those who were shot could have been collaborating with the Russians, and left outside as a warning to other potential traitors (similarly to the Romans who crucified Spartacus supporters and left them hanging by the Appian Way).

Or, it could simply be the work of poorly trained Siberian thugs who are used to such atrocities, and purposely left corpses to rot for 3 weeks.

It may take a while to figure out who did what.

118 posted on 04/05/2022 6:13:05 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Comitia asinorum et rhinocerum delenda sunt.)
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To: Rusty0604

Yes.


119 posted on 04/05/2022 6:13:57 PM PDT by datura (Eventually, the Lord and the Truth will win.)
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To: Houserino

Taking up arms is quite admirable, but you are no longer a civilian. The Ukrainians made a mistake making a big show of doling out the weaponry. It gives the Russians cover.


120 posted on 04/05/2022 6:15:22 PM PDT by moehoward (.)
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