Lol, "realist".
Posted on 04/05/2022 4:27:48 PM PDT by delta7
Bucha is the latest shiny object that the Western cats are chasing mindlessly without taking time to think critically about what Russia is actually doing on the ground. Russia’s invasion on February 24 was not a classic military attack. What do I mean? If Russia was intent on conquering and subjugating Ukraine without regard to the fate of Ukrainian civilians it would have launched massive missile and airstrikes on all major cities, bridges, airfields, railroads and communication systems. It did not do that. Not my opinion.
The first phase of Russia’s special military operation consisted of the following:
Moved troops and armored columns into Ukraine from three directions–North, East and South. Deployed only 200,000 troops while maintaining key reserves inside Russia along the Ukrainian border against a Ukrainian Army estimated to number 600,000. Avoided attacking communication systems leaving cell phone and internet largely intact. Took control of the largest nuclear power plant in Europe–Zaporizhzhya Nuclear Power Plant–but kept the electricity flowing. Supported offensives by the Luhansk and Donetsk People’s Republics against Ukrainian forces in the East. Gradually surrounded Kiev from the North but did not fight any key battles to occupy outlying cities. Destroyed Ukrainian ground radar, key airfields and military bases in Western Ukraine with precision missiles. Sealed the southern coast of Ukraine with the Russian Navy. Launched an assault on Mariupol, a key Ukrainian port in the South, and systematically annihilated the neo-Nazi AZOV battalion (Russia now controls all of Mariupol except for the steel plant and continues to methodically eliminate the remaining defenders). The immediate effect of this operation divided and froze the Ukrainian Army in four geographical regions-North, South, East and West. During the first two weeks the Ukrainians and NATO did not know where Russia’s major blow would fall. Russia’s initial success in eliminating Ukraine’s Air Force as a combat effective unit and the destruction of key military bases and fuel depots made it impossible for Ukraine to dispatch reinforcements to Donbas and Mariupol.
During the past week Russia has effected a tactical redeployment of forces that originally surrounded Kiev. It is reported that those units moved west and are likely to be used as block force that will be part of a broader effort to defeat the bulk of the Ukraine Army now virtually surrounded in the eastern part of the Donbas.
With its limited ability to move troops or resupply frontline forces, Ukraine is relying on propaganda and information warfare to try to weaken Russia and entice NATO to join the fray. Here is a good summary of these efforts courtesy of Nighvision:
For instance, when the Russian POW torture video came out, it was Ukraine that cried “fake” until days later all western ‘authorities’ were forced to admit it was real. When the ‘maternity hospital’ false flag in Mariupol occurred, Kyiv supporters blamed Russia and once again Russia was the one proven right and vindicated when the pregnant girl at the center of it herself released an interview completely refuting Ukrainian lies, and stating that not only did Ukrainian soldiers turn the hospital into a barracks but stole the precious food from pregnant women and then shelled the hospital themselves. When Ukraine claimed Russia bombed an ‘innocent’ civilian mall, yet the very next moment the Russian MOD released detailed videos showing precisely how Ukrop forces positioned mobile artillery in the parking garage of the said ‘mall’. When Ukrops claimed Russia tried to blow up the Zaporizhzhia plant, yet security footage showed that as a Russian security force arrived, it was fired upon by an RPG from Ukrop positions in one of the administrative buildings of the plant. When the famed American journalist was killed in Irpin right outside Kiev a month ago, and all Ukrainian supporters shouted Russia, but the entire incident was quickly swept under the rug when the journalist’s own friend/companion in an interview stated they were fired upon by Ukrop troops at a Ukrop checkpoint miles away from the nearest Russian forces.
“The dead only know one thing, it’s better to be alive.”
Full Metal Jacket
“Is the Bucha Massacre A Ukrainian False Flag?”
nope ... satellite images confirm the atrocities were committed during the time russians occupied the area:
“I’m making the assertion/suggestion this particular dictator is practical.”
And I’m taking the position that it remains to be seen.
I’ve read several accounts from different sources. I’d suggest you try to broaden your sources beyond Western Corporate Media.
They lie about absolutely everything.
“Fast forward to today and some conservatives are bending over backwards in saying both Russia and Ukraine are the bad guys. It’s sickening.”
We were stupid then.
No more.
You should ask why you are stupid now.
There are no good guys.
For all those believing the western narrative... How about some common sense..
Russia strikes a defense pact with Venezuela and Columbia. Soon Panama and Costa Rica join, to be followed in subsequent years by Nicaragua, Honduras and Guatemala.
Russia supplies these countries with weapons and on-ground military manpower and logistics, including nuclear capabilities.
The US asks for, and receives assurances from both Mexico and Russia that Mexico will never join the Russian alliance.
During this time, US ex-pats living in a concentrated area of Baja California are being targeted and killed by Mexican nationalists, who have stated their genocidal intent. The ex-pats implore the US to help.
The US discovers Russia Is supplying arms to Mexico and sending advisers and personnel to train the Mexican forces. In addition, the US discovers 26 bio-weapon labs are scattered close to the border, funded and under direction of Russia.
The US is aware that Russia is an advocate of and intent on establishing a new one world order, and considers the US an obstacle that must be removed to achieve their goal.
Finally, the Russian prime minister gives a speech and states that Mexico is considered a Russian pact nation.
What do you suppose the US should believe and do. Should they trust Russia and do nothing? Or believe the obvious and take strong action to protect their interests and countrymen?
Remember... JFK almost took the US to nuclear war for far less, and did, in fact, invade a sovereign nation, Cuba (Bay of Pigs).
“No, but he should forever shut his mouth for calling the Russian crimes worse than the Holocaust.”
Yeah, that was over the top. And him a Jew.
Lol, "realist".
“ Without that invasion, none of the subsequent things happen to question and argue about.”
Stop making sense.
L
I believe Putin has fallen to the same flaw that Saddam Hussein did: he believed the yes men who told him he had mighty weapons and a mighty army because that’s what he wanted to hear. All the while the people tasked with modernizing and equipping the army were buying more yachts and dachas.
I think the 22,000 was before this war broke out, in the eastern States.
You keep saying that but where is the evidence that the Russians did it and not the Ukrainians?
So you wont tell me your source?
That can only be because your too embarrassed to say.
If we’re making up numbers, I’ll say Russia committed 100x worse than nazi germany even could.
I don’t know why you think more, or much less ‘10x’, but it’s nonsense. And this site is getting wrecked for that mentality.
The satellite pictures show the bodies March 19 lying on the streets. The bodies were later seen by reporters. ALL the surviving villagers are saying the Russian soldiers took the men and shot them, some in front of their wives.
“There are no good guys.”
But I know who is the bad guy, and that’s you and the other dozen or so russian sycophants.
Google it. There are several sources reporting this.
You must be afraid to google it or use Brave search because you’re too embarrassed to read.
I’m not siding with Zelensky - yes their government is corrupt as hell - after all they had great teachers in the USSR, and sold their services to the Democrats.
Other than the desire to take over the land along the Black Sea in Crimea and the mineral riches of Luhansk, there is no reason for Russia to have invaded Ukraine. Donetsk and Luhansk conflict has been ongoing, and the Russian mafia has controlled those provinces.
The Warsaw Pact’s goal was to increase the size of the USSR - nothing has changed.
I have literally had my boots on the ground in Eastern Europe against the Soviets back in the ‘80s - so I’m not without bias either. I have witnessed how the Red Army does things first hand.
I do, however, side with the Ukrainian people against the Russian invasion. I hope that if we ever get to the Ammo Box phase here that enough of us show that much bravery.
“During the reporting period, UN human rights monitors also documented allegations of violations perpetrated with impunity by Ukrainian law enforcement officials—mainly elements of the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU)—including enforced disappearances, arbitrary and incommunicado detention, and torture and ill-treatment.
“I urge the Ukrainian authorities to ensure prompt and impartial investigation into each and every reported human rights violation,” Mr. Zeid stated. “Accountability is critical to bring justice for victims, curtail impunity, and foster long-lasting peace, and it is also important as a deterrent to further violations by State authorities. Each violation that goes un-investigated and unpunished saps the State’s moral and legal authority.”
The High Commissioner also called on the Government of Ukraine and the self-proclaimed ‘Donetsk people’s republic’ and ‘Luhansk people’s republic’ to take action to clarify the fate of missing persons and to prevent other people from going missing. “The clarification of the fate of the missing should be a key priority of any peace negotiations,” he stressed.
Just one of many UN articles, many out there. The UN group received reports of 22,000 deaths of ethnic Russians in Independent Donbass provinces, from 2015 to 2022. The Ukrainian government is just as evil as Vlad.
Interesting testimony translated into English from a eye witness of the killings in Bucha. He claims the worst offenders were the Muslim Chechens who fought for Russia who he calls “Kadyrovites “
“How were the Kadyrovites different from the rest of the Russian soldiers?
How did the soldiers who occupied the city behave?
A few weeks after the occupation the Kadyrovites came into the city. Except for external signs they differed from the Russians in their uniforms: they were either black or dark green.
For the last week they marched in the morning through residential areas and shot everyone they saw, every day someone had to be buried.
At the end of March they killed our neighbor, a pensioner named Strelets. He was just sitting on a bench, he’d never done anything bad in his life and of course he wasn’t a ‘nazi.
If the Kadyrovites all behaved in a brutal and barbaric way, the Russians were different. There were a lot of young men among them. Some of them knocked on people’s doors and asked for a place to sleep, others simply beat them and threw their owners out on the street.”
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.