Posted on 04/05/2022 8:55:38 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
Russian conscripts are being given 19th century rifles, made to drink from ponds filled with dead frogs and ordered to draw enemy fire, they have revealed.
Soldiers in the Russian-backed Donbas region have spoken of how they have been sent to fight Ukraine's forces with no training, a lack of food and water, and inadequate equipment - as Moscow's armies continue to suffer heavy losses.
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The Donbas armed forces are fighting alongside Russian soldiers but are not part of the Russian armed forces, which have different rules about which troops they send into combat.
Several Donbas draftees have been issued with a rifle called a Mosin, which was developed in the late 19th century and went out of production decades ago, according to three people who saw conscripts from the separatist region using the weapon.
Images shared on social media, that Reuters was not able to verify independently, also showed Donbas fighters with Mosin rifles.
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The same source said some conscripts were issued with the Mosin rifle from reserve stocks that date back to the Second World War.
The student conscript said he has seen fellow fighters using the rifle: 'It's like we're fighting with World War Two muskets.'
A soldier in the Russian armed forces who is fighting near Mariupol told Reuters he had seen soldiers from the Donetsk separatist military carrying Mosin rifles. A video posted on social media on Tuesday by Russian military journalist Semyon Pegov showed a man who said he was a Donbas draftee brandishing a Mosin rifle.
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That’s absurd.
It’s war, not an OSHA regulated workplace. Anything Russian Generals do we have done a thousand times over and for usually far lower reasoning standards.
Isn’t the Mosin Nagant a sniper rifle, from WWII?
The author is an idiot.
Guns from either World War are “20th century” guns.
Also, any Boy Scout is glad to drink from a pond, as they have cheap filters to handle it.
There’s an easy solution to,it... pack up and go home
That’s no joke about the rifles. I had a mauser 1898 that these were copied from.
Mosin’s and especially 7.52x54r still have a place on today’s battle field. I know you’ve never been anywhere near a gunfight, but ask anyone who has been shot at by a PKM, Drag or Mosin.
If you want to be part of Russia, it’s only fair that draftees get mistreated like any other Russian draftees from the regions other than Moscow and Saint Petersburg. The Kremlin prefers their cannon fodder not come from big cities.
A Moisin 91 or 91/30 will kill you just as dead.
I collected Moisins years ago, all are clunky to
operate but some, especially the Finn produced ones
are well made and quite accurate.
Scoped Mosin rifles make excellent weapons for snipers. Whoever or however the bullet is fired, you would not want to be on the receiving end.
The Mosin was an ubiquitous rifle in WWII for Russian troops, and was preferred by many as a sniper rifle. It is not a slouch.
“It’s war, not OSHA regulated workplace”
The proof of that is in the top picture, the guy is smoking a cigarette.
Those guys don’t look like they lack food
A reasonably capable WWII sniper rifle.
Yep. A scoped Mosin and a good shooter are a formidable threat to a soldier near a Russian formation. If he can see you, he can hit you....with a powerful round that can penetrate considerable cover. This isn’t what the reporter thinks it is.
After a month of non-stop bad news about Russians and good news about Ukraine, you’d think by now Ukraine would have taken over Russia.
The Mosin-Nagant was adopted by the tsarist army in 1891. It was the standard Russian infantry rifle in World War I. They were used by snipers in WWII. The standard Russian sniper rifle is supposed to be the Dragunov SVD from 1963. It shoots the same cartridge as the Mosin-Nagant, but is a semi-auto. Why there are Russians in the field with their great-grandfather’s infantry rifle is anyone’s guess.
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