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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Who, What, When, Where, Why and How?

Would it be too much to ask of a reported to find out WHO is stopping them and why? Is it Azov nazi SS refusing to allow them in because they will speak to citizens of that area in terror of them?

Is it Russians who will not allow any corridor to open through their lines surrounding Maripol?

Did the train tickets cost too much?

All we know is that “they can’t get there”.


2 posted on 04/04/2022 10:48:56 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: DesertRhino

I was afraid to say. Some freepers like to attack if you share information. Other long time freepers have told me they no longer want to post.

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Dear International Committee of the Red Cross we just received your press release on your so called “efforts” to facilitate the safe passage of civilians out of #mariupol.

Let me break it down for you why it’s a total BS
1. You say: ‘The ICRC team, which consists of three vehicles and nine personnel, did not reach Mariupol or facilitate the safe passage of civilians today’

Reality:
✅ Humanitarian convoy consisting of some 40 busses left Mariupol yesterday (so not really sure, why you wanted to go to Mariupol today)
✅ As of 6 p.m. on April 1st, the buses with people were stuck at the last russian checkpoint - some 50 km south of Zaporizhya; russians were not letting them through
✅ At the same time ICRC vehicles were seen inside peaceful Zaporizhya driving around

✅ Local volunteers ACTUALLY facilitating the safe passage of civilians from Mariupol and having their reps INSIDE these busses reported that at no point ICRC was present anywhere NEAR the humanitarian convoy

2. You say: For the operation to succeed, it is critical that the parties respect the agreements and provide the necessary conditions and security guarantees

Reality:
✅ We drove to the last Ukrainian checkpoint on the route that evacuees were supposed to take on their way to Zaporizhya and did not evidence any fighting, shelling or other hostilities

✅ We also did not evidence any ICRC presence trying to “facilitate” the safe passage of civilians from Mariupol, which at that point were some 15 km away

3. You say: If and when the safe passage operation does happen, the ICRC’s role as a neutral intermediary would be to accompany the convoy out from Mariupol to another city in Ukraine

Reality:
✅ let me remind you again: the convoy has left Mariupol already; if your “efforts” were genuine, you’d be in touch with volunteers on the ground and you’d have known where the convoy is currently located

4. You say: The parties to the conflict would also need to fulfill the agreements reached to allow for this operation to happen.

Reality:
✅ This is a war, not a conflict
✅ Even the UN calls this a russian Offensive in Ukraine
(https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/03/1113152?fbclid=IwAR0d6PDWnJNUNpaXi4S1SZmfLvtQwlj_xKq9ay5gzR4OrUnGQnrzVcSA1L0)


5 posted on 04/04/2022 11:04:05 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: DesertRhino

It’s been a problem because of the obvious reasons often over looked - there are targeted areas and you don’t want people on the streets during these times - further Mariupol has been a bastion of fierce fire fighting from the get go. It’s been a base for Azrov and other dangerous and violent sadistic members for years. ..and they will and do use human shields.

We also know many buildings were blown up by AZOV and not bombed by Russia....That has been reported from people who escaped.


6 posted on 04/04/2022 11:06:07 AM PDT by caww ( )
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To: DesertRhino

Richard Cline wrote saying “I was trying to send humanitarian help to Ukraine-Bucha,to be particular,I spoke with my Ukrainian friends and I was told not to send baby formula to Bucha-no kids left there,all killed.

Will Red Cross help in this situation-do not think so. Did they help before it happened-not too much. In my opinion they are useless. I can invite you to Ukraine-my friends and family are here now.You can talk to people,look in their eyes,see what happened to them.”


10 posted on 04/04/2022 12:15:34 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: DesertRhino

Propaganda is harder to do than most people think.


11 posted on 04/04/2022 12:16:20 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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