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Air strikes hit Ukraine's strategic port Odessa
France 24 ^

Posted on 04/03/2022 4:49:06 AM PDT by FarCenter

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To: refermech
Russia has never been good at conducting war. They'll keep throwing bodies at it until they think they've won.

Don't think I need to repeat the stories about three Russian soldiers sharing one weapon during WW2.

First soldier had the weapon. When he got shot, the second soldier that was behind him picked it up and kept trying to advance the line. When he was shot, the third soldier who was behind him picked it up and kept trying to advance the line.

That was WW2. Don't see how it's different today. Same mentality. That doesn't win wars. If Russia had really been the military superpower we in this country had been lead to believe for decades (I'm pushing 60) there's no way Ukraine would've lasted this long.

Putin and Russia f'd up bad. Xi is watching this from China laughing at Putin while simultaneously learning all the lessons he can so he doesn't repeat the same mistake Putin did, when Xi orders the invasion of Taiwan.

Let's be honest: that's coming. I don't understand why it hasn't happened yet but when it does, the choke hold that China will have on the world's computer chip supply and everything computer chips are in today is going to devastate the global economy even more than it has been.

Big chip plants being built in AZ won'tbe putting out a single usable chip for at least two to three more years. Even then, China has control over the majority of raw materials needed to make them because the dumbass greenies in this country are in control and hey, no oil, no minerals, no energy, no water "save the planet" stupidity that has no real basis in science is running the show.

Back to Russia: the fact Ukraine hasn't outright surrendered by now tells us all we need to know about how weak and ineffective the Russian military really is. Were they not sitting on nukes, they'd be as easily stoppable as the Iraq Republican Guard was in 1991, and they were nothing but cannon fodder for our guys. I know this to be true because a dear friend was there picking them off until our guys were ordered to stop. It was a slaughter. The ONLY reason we left any of the Iraqi Republican Guard live was to be a presence against Iran. Balance of power. Russia would be no different if they didn't have the nuke card to play. It would be a slaughter if the US went up against Russia head to head on the traditional field of battle. Anyone who doesn't know that is either kidding themselves listening to propaganda, stupid, or both .

That's how I see it anyway, and between Putin, Zelensky, Biden, Xi and the rest, there are NO good guys in this, period. NONE. When you invade another sovereign nation under false pretenses though, that makes you the bad guy.

Invaded because of Nazi's .. right. Whatever happened to it being common sense around here that the first person to use the term Nazi in an argument was automatically determined to be too f'nd stupid to even have a conversation with? Back in the good old days here on FR, everyone would look at that person, determine they were a complete loser and shun them. What happened to FR that people actually buy into the "Russia went in to Ukraine because of Nazi's" bullshit??

That people actually somehow think Putin's defending Christianity and Christian values here is just beyond me. Putin's an opportunist. Putin is all Putin. Nothing more.

21 posted on 04/03/2022 6:43:47 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: AndyJackson
I hear every day that they are losing

I know.

Just the other day, celebrities had a Zoom call where they sang "Imagine" from their mansions. Pretty soon, I hear Bono is going to speak out!

And have you seen all the hashtags on Twitter mocking Putin?

Victory is near!

22 posted on 04/03/2022 6:43:59 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Who saves the nation breaks no law)
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To: LouieFisk

The problem for Russia is who owns these refineries.

The one in Odessa is owned by Lukoil, a giant Russian company. Blowing it up is wiping out billions in Russian assets.


23 posted on 04/03/2022 6:47:06 AM PDT by Renfrew
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To: refermech
I think I see the US going in an isolationist direction.

Where I would hope we are going is back to consolidating our position as a maratime trading country with partners and allies on the rims of the oceans, you know, your old view of the pacific rim. What goes on in the collision between China, Russia and India, cannot be our affair.

I don't preach isolationism and solipsism. But I do believe in friendships and alliances with kindred spirits - if there are any anymore. That is enough. We can be friends with England and Israel and Japan and France - if you must - without worrying about Kazakhstan overly much.

24 posted on 04/03/2022 7:13:39 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Jim Noble
Victory is near!

And #deathtoPutin

Where in the various circles of hell would Dante cast George Orwell who tried to warn us all and instead was taken as a prophet for a brave new world run by $4itocrats.

25 posted on 04/03/2022 7:17:00 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

You are very well learned and a thinking man on Rooskies vs Ukraine. You display yourself as neutral on this, and screw both corrupted regimes. The hole in your libertarian logic is this:

If Russian wins to dominate Ukraine, then CCP will follow soon after, by taking Taiwan and TSMC. Do you know what TSMC is? And no cheats via a Google lookup! ! ! !


26 posted on 04/03/2022 7:25:42 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw
That is not a hole in my libertarian logic because as I said we need strong alliances with our natural trading partners and specifically the Pacific Rim.

Which view makes me not a very good libertarian. And by trading partners on the Pacific Rim, I mean SK, Japan, Taiwan, Australia and New Zealand, and others.

27 posted on 04/03/2022 7:31:49 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: refermech
They are losing the public relations war.

Only in the globalist West.

28 posted on 04/03/2022 7:35:35 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: AndyJackson

“Australia and New Zealand...... “

Proven Covid panicked idiots. Next! I need more words of wisdom from you.


29 posted on 04/03/2022 7:35:47 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: AndyJackson

And what is TSMC? ... No googling on this one!


30 posted on 04/03/2022 7:38:05 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw
And what is TSMC?

One of those brilliant globalist creations where we put all of our precious gold in one little basket at the end of a fragile supply chain where one good bomb and anything using a semicondutor is out of luck for seven years at a minimum.

That TSMC?

31 posted on 04/03/2022 7:41:38 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: bert
Putin is now seeking vindicative destruction of as much as he can in Ukraine. He sees Mother Russia is now on life support and may not actually survive his misguided efforts. Thus he is getting in as many destructive licks as he can while he can.


32 posted on 04/03/2022 7:44:00 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: AndyJackson

You are getting warm...


33 posted on 04/03/2022 7:46:08 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: FarCenter

Looks like they’re starting to soften up Odessa.


34 posted on 04/03/2022 7:46:41 AM PDT by BobL (Putin isn't sending gays into our schools to recruit children, but anti-Putin people are)
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To: Renfrew

And if you plan on being the de facto ruler/puppetmaster of Ukraine, they are all yours. You wanna keep anything that’s worth anything in working order.


35 posted on 04/03/2022 7:46:55 AM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: bert
Putin is now seeking vindicative destruction of as much as he can in Ukraine. He sees Mother Russia is now on life support and may not actually survive his misguided efforts. Thus he is getting in as many destructive licks as he can while he can.

Putin was great in his first 10 years of presidency. The Russian economy boomed. Then 10 years after that, the economy stagnated due to corruption. So it was underachieving. But Russia can live with that. Now Putin declared war with a military who was not ready to fight? This is looking like Russo-Japanese War. A humiliating defeat for Russia.

36 posted on 04/03/2022 7:49:38 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: dennisw

China will take Taiwan soon no matter what any non-Chinese person does or does not do.


37 posted on 04/03/2022 7:51:54 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Who saves the nation breaks no law)
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To: FarCenter
I'm thinking the American people were better informed on World War II in 1942 - way before TV and the Internet.

It's shameful that in the so-called information age that we are all so ill-informed by our useless lapdog media.

Newspapers, radio and news reels of 1942 were superior to what we have today.

38 posted on 04/03/2022 7:52:58 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (831,000 active users now on Truth Social)
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To: ASA Vet
Thanks for the feedback!:

Likely because the NATO AWACS orbiting in Poland near the Moldova border gave them warning early enough to get their people clear.

39 posted on 04/03/2022 7:53:07 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Playing “Make Believe” is for liberal adults/children. It is past time to grow up!)
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To: dennisw

“And what is TSMC? … No googling on this one!”
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I know! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju-lptJweTc


40 posted on 04/03/2022 7:56:48 AM PDT by House Atreides
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