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Zelensky: Two Ukrainian generals dismissed for being ‘traitors’
The Hill ^ | April 1, 2022

Posted on 04/01/2022 5:49:05 AM PDT by Loyalist

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To: refermech

Agreed. A whole bunch of Union Generals in the US Civil War got canned.

(Most) Freaking people here have no perspective.


21 posted on 04/01/2022 6:52:24 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Sacajaweau
Well I covered the Maidan pretty extensively so I know what was happening then - what Zelensky has done is continued with Obamas agenda against Russia - even using Nuland to oversee a lot of it. She did very well at strong arming the EU nations to jump on board this time....who didn't much appreciate it as we know.

I genuinely despise this administration and how they continue to ruin everything they touch. ...and they're not finished - nor are they concerned what the people think. ...even if they lose the mid-terms they have the rest of Bidens term to create all we're seeing now and they were well prepared to carry it out in these years left. So they (Obamas former Harem gals) truly are unconcerned about anything other than carrying on with Obamas agenda.

22 posted on 04/01/2022 6:54:26 AM PDT by caww ( )
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To: Sacajaweau

What Ukraine has done with the Donbass areas and others is no different than nations who have committed Genocide. I listened to a Ukrainian soldier speaking about it - he said the people there aren’t Ukraineans, that they needed to be destroyed, that he had killed many in 2017 in Donbass and was now doing so again. So when the people say Ukraiain soldiers were trying to shoot them - they really have been.


23 posted on 04/01/2022 6:58:20 AM PDT by caww ( )
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To: Sacajaweau

Well Peroshenko implemented a lot of that and many undesriables were in his cabinet to carry it out. No matter who the Ukraine people vote for it will never be anything other than what the US wants in there.


24 posted on 04/01/2022 7:05:13 AM PDT by caww ( )
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To: Loyalist

maybe that’s why Putin though the Uke invasion would be a walk through. He had these generals in his pocket.


25 posted on 04/01/2022 7:14:56 AM PDT by elpadre (And here in NCini)
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To: BillyCuccio
Also when do the American taxpayers get back all the money he and his cronies have stolen?

Sounds good to me. Biden, Romney, Pelosi, Kerry, et al can write us a check.

26 posted on 04/01/2022 7:19:53 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: caww

Joe’s given away the whole game.

He’s already told us what the plan is.

America must “lead” the new world order but Russia is throwing some sand in its gears.

The administration from hell is the head of the snake, which sure looks like the obama team.

This whole sorry affair would never have taken place under Trump. That’s why he is gone.


27 posted on 04/01/2022 7:28:52 AM PDT by katie didit
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To: Sacajaweau

from all that I read it was the previous president, Poroshenko who was joined at the hip with Biden and deeply involved in fraud with the Bidens et al.

Zelelnsky besides being a comedian was also a businessman and owned his own media company which became a political party and arch-competitor of Poroshenko’s party. In the 2019 election he garnered over 70% of the votes. As I understood it, he was popular because he opposed Poroshenko and his shady politics. He was a non-politician who beat the old guard. (as did Trump and Reagan in their day)

I have searched and read several sources and find no connection between Zelensky and the previous government. But I’m still learning and would appreciate if you could share any sources to the contrary.


28 posted on 04/01/2022 7:34:11 AM PDT by elpadre (And here in NCini)
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To: Rocky Mountain Wild Turkey

Zelelnsky did have one of his peace negotiators tortured and killed a few weeks back. Funny we haven’t heard much about that in our CIA infested media.

BTW....isn’t this what they are accusing Putin and Russia of doing??

The pot and the kettle playbook.


29 posted on 04/01/2022 7:59:35 AM PDT by blackberry1
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To: FatherofFive; All

Ukraine is definitely the underdog...

Whether for or against Ukraine, there are a FEW POINTS TO CONSIDER —

— Ukraine is so much smaller than the large 9 nation Russian Federation subordinate CIS and its Formal Russian/Chinese axis, in a life and death DEFENSIVE struggle, where millions could potentially be wiped out, it is simply foolish for anyone to believe Zelensky would make decisions which would reduce foreign support, to a degree EVEN FROM THOSE HE AMD MANY UKRAINIAN’S WOULD DISAGREE

— Long before Putin attacked Ukraine I have spent much time across Ukraine over the years, and have experienced at different levels of society, Ukraine truly wasn’t hot on the EU in general, with significant disagreement over leftist EU policies on social, economic, and governing related issues. However, simultaneously, Ukraine repeatedly bent over backwards for both US and EU (Western) support, as they feared resubordination to the Moscow and subordinate CIS that much more.

— There is a spectrum, but overall Ukraine is more conservative on many issues, and more Western friendly than Russia, or Russia’s subordinate and predominantly Muslim CIS.

— The same leftist Pentagon JC’s who really stripped Trump of his control over the Pentagon (treason), and who defied Trump publically (before and after 3 NOV 2020), and helped set up Trump supporters on Jan 6, 2021, are on circulated record as believing and parroting Putin’s 72 hour to one week takeover of Ukraine.

— If Zelensky became aware of actual corruption and Russian collusion, or of actions which hurt Ukraine’s support, then he did the right thing.

— Not dissimilar to Trump, regardless of his past, Zelensky has stood on the side of Trump. Obviously, while facing national death, Ukraine is seeking support from any and all western leaders, including the US with its fraudulent and corrupt president.

— Recent history demonstrated a significant fight involving Trump and Zelensky, against German Chancellor Merkel (East German KGB recruited*), and her predecessor - German Chancellor Gerhard Schroder (Chairman and Putin selected board member of Russian majority state owned energy goliaths Rosneft and Gazprom, and Chairman of Russian Nord Stream 2).

— It is clear Zelensky was only ever in a position to fight with Germany, having been overwhelmingly elected in 2019 by roughly 70% of the UA vote, due to Trump SoS Mike Pompeo, and Rudy Giuliani severely disrupting massive corruption/destabilization/economic rape efforts of the DNC, Clinton Foundation, and Soros — and Russian/Ukrainian Kremlin oligarch tag team involved in laundering, racketeering, and thuggery within Ukraine.

— Zelensky didn’t just fight with Germany over Nord Stream 2, even while threatened Zelensky publically stood with Trump against DNC congressional efforts to carry out a THIRD coup’d’etat effort over Trump trying to end the massive DNC corruption in Ukraine —

Zelensky and Merkel lock horns over Nord stream 2

https://youtu.be/9bh4P-MNjOI

Merkel Struggles to Reassure Ukraine on Nord Stream 2

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/08/22/merkel-struggles-to-reassure-ukraine-on-nord-stream-2-a74864

— AND THIS WAR IS BERY MUCH ABOIT CONTROLLING ENERGY FLOW TO EUROPE


30 posted on 04/01/2022 8:07:54 AM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: patriotfury

Wow, my thumbs and auto correct are helping me create a new language.


31 posted on 04/01/2022 8:14:26 AM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: Loyalist

How very like Stalin.


32 posted on 04/01/2022 9:00:17 AM PDT by Salman (It's not a "slippery slope" if it was part of the program all along. )
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To: caww

Russians withrawing their two main offensive salients with their tails between their legs smells like victory to me.


33 posted on 04/01/2022 9:32:49 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: caww
What Ukraine has done with the Donbass areas and others is no different than nations who have committed Genocide.

LOL, thanks for the crazy Ivan point of view.

34 posted on 04/01/2022 9:37:14 AM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: Sacajaweau
He wanted no Russian spoken or taught...etc etc....and Zelensky has the same thinking.

Learn the language of the country you live in, or get out.

35 posted on 04/01/2022 9:40:09 AM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: tlozo

Zelensky grew up speaking Russian....Ukranian is his second language.


36 posted on 04/01/2022 9:50:38 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Rocky Mountain Wild Turkey

That was my thought as well.


37 posted on 04/01/2022 9:51:51 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: refermech

It’s been near

The real objective is eastern Ukraine

And it’s fierce there albeit Azov is cut off and the Russian separatists who’ve been fighting them eight years are in no mood to give them an escape or mercy

The Russian. Army parked around Kiev and other central Uke cities are there to intimidate

And have been for weeks

Anyone who’s truly dug into info out there knows this

If you only follow daily Mail then we’ll....you’re lost basically

Zelensky is clinging for politic and at the urging of his domestic and foreign masters

At some point he will capitulate or possibly perish

Putin in my view wants what he’s said for years

And that doesn’t include occupying Ukraine

Hence why endure the crazy agit prop if he Groznys Kiev

Just wait em out and do the anaconda on Azov in Donbas

Donbas is sadly going to be a bloodbath unless Putin forces the separatists to allow Azov ...what’s left of them..to retreat

The Russian ethnics in Donbas feel towards Azov very revenge motivated...it’s a volatile situation. Azov is pretty much in a dire situation .

This is how I see it

I welcome discussion without personal attacks

Thank you


38 posted on 04/01/2022 10:03:51 AM PDT by wardaddy (Free Republic land of the earnest headline readers )
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To: wardaddy

You’ll get no argument from me. This sounds like a very reasoned analysis. No way for me to know who is right here.
Shame all those people have to die. On both sides I might add.


39 posted on 04/01/2022 12:06:05 PM PDT by refermech
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To: tlozo

I see you still enjoy being annoying - how about you lay down your arms and cut with the snarky remarks.


40 posted on 04/01/2022 12:41:47 PM PDT by caww ( )
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