Posted on 03/29/2022 6:03:07 AM PDT by windowdude
As tanks and troops pour into Ukraine, the United States and its allies shift their attention to Russia. But experts warn that China, whose ruling communist party has captured U.S. elites, is still focusing on supplanting the United States, leader of the free world.
“The Russia-Ukraine war is a distraction because even the U.S. intelligence community’s 2022 threat assessment identifies China as the number one existential threat to the United States,” said Stu Cvrk, an analyst and retired U.S. Navy captain.
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They are all together, kgb, cia, fbi, Chinese secret service..media khabhiki designed to make us glad they took over and solved all the problems, very 666’ish
Complete with persecution of those against the new gangstamint..
They also have buzzard breath..lol
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Also distracting us from ISIS and the invaders swarming our southern “border”.
Ukraine War Takes America’s Eye Off CCP, Experts Say
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I’m gonna have to disagree. The worst enemies are right here in this nation. The enemies that are here are far more likely to do you harm that the Chinese, Russians, ISIS, Iranians, etc., etc.
The truth is that most Americans weren't paying much attention to China 24/7 even before this war. In fact, I'd suggest that Russia's attack against Ukraine has increased attention to politics in general, and in particular to matters of foreign policy.
As a matter of both principal and strategy, the West response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine is directly analogous to the threat China presents in the Eastern Pacific to Taiwan and to other nations. China is undoubtedly watching how the West response to this invasion as it weighs the potential consequences of its own actions.
The best way to discourage future Chinese aggression is to respond as the West has done to Russia's aggression. Of course, for those who view the U.S. and the rest of the West as decadent, evil, and worthy of destruction, maybe they'd rather see China win anyway.
Far more important regarding the events in Ukraine is just how are China and Taiwan reacting. The primary goal of China’s large “one child” combat inexperienced army and the locally produced shipd and jets with equally combat inexperienced sailors and pilots is to retake Taiwan. Yet Comrade Xi witnessing the difficulties that the Russian army is having attacking over frozen turf, must be wondering just what will happen to his military attacking over 90 miles of open ocean. Also Russia itself is having significant economic disruptions and Putin’s political position is not secure. Comrade Xi knows a failed invasion would result in a not too gentle purge of himself , his family and sycophants from their comfortable positions. Comrade Xi is no fool and is properly taking pause.
Yet what is the reaction of the people of Taiwan and their leaders. Are they inspired by the heroic efforts and resistance of the Ukrainians? Or do they witness the deaths, destruction and refugees, figure that they will receive no significant help from the US and say in the final analysis “better red than dead.”
Yep, the CCP is one of the biggest enemies we have. Not to mention all of their paid agents here in this country and other western countries. They did an even better job than the Soviets did in infiltrating every iota of western society and government. When we go down it will be from within. The CCP won’t have to send a single missile or soldier to make it happen.
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“This is crap, and just another lame attempt to suggest we should ignore Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.”
Actually, it is sound reasoning, devoid of your girlish emoting.
We have real interests in Taiwan, and essential commercial interests throughout the Pacific. Sufficient for war.
We have no interests whatsoever in Ukraine, and very few of any kind in the rest of eastern Europe.
We built and currently maintain Red China as an economic power; pretending they are anything else other than soulmates of America’s oligarchs is tiresome. The 1%ers maintain the facade for us little people, but the clear truth (evidenced on our store shelves and in our universities) is that our elites are allied with theirs.
China is the sweatshop of the West while serving as a convenient boogeyman; as long as we maintain such cozy trade relations with them while educating their young cadres, we don’t need to pretend they are enemies of “the West”. They are enemies of Western people and their ideals, but strong allies of the Western governments that seek to duplicate the ChiCom’s control of their population.
If that refers to Taiwan, then shouldn't we end the policy of strategic ambiguity?
We have no interests whatsoever in Ukraine, and very few of any kind in the rest of eastern Europe.
I strongly disagree, and in part for reasons having to do with China.
1) China is absolutely watching how the U.S. and other western or western-allied nations such as Japan and South Korea -- respond to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Are we willing to suffer economic harm on our own end to punish an aggressor? Do we stay united? Those are things that China will consider on its own before becoming aggressive militarily. If we don't oppose Russian aggression, then the Chinese will not believe we'll take an even greater risk -- both economically and militarily -- by opposing them in WestPac.
2) The Europeans are much less likely to back up either militarily or (far more importantly) economically if we send the signal that we really don't care about Europe any more. At the very least, China will think it easier to split us if we already split over Ukraine. But if we, the EU, allied nations like Japan, South Korea, Australia, etc., all hang together over Ukraine, the Chinese are more likely to believe we'll hang together against them.
Why do you suppose China is backing Russia in the first place? It's because they're using Russia as the crash-test dummy to see if the rest of the world will let them get away with this kind of naked aggression. If China sees Russia get away with it, they'll consider that a green flag for their own aggression.
Now maybe you consider that all just "girlish emoting." I consider it the essential context in which the Russian invasion must be viewed. It has nothing to do with Ukraine being portrayed as angelic v. demonic Russians, but rather basic opposition to naked aggression.
Also...I think this is all so blindingly obvious that I can't imagine anyone truly believing that ignoring Russia won't encourage Chinese aggression. Which is why I very much doubt the sincerity of those who claim to be opposed to Chinese expansionism while arguing we should turn a blind eye to Russia. I don't think those people actually care about Chinese aggression either. In truth, they're just isolationists, and don't care about either.
Or they're just dumber than a box of hammers.
“If that refers to Taiwan, then shouldn’t we end the policy of strategic ambiguity?”
Yes, absolutely.
“Are we willing to suffer economic harm on our own end to punish an aggressor? Do we stay united? Those are things that China will consider on its own before becoming aggressive militarily. If we don’t oppose Russian aggression”
Moralizing is not Realpolitik.
“2) The Europeans are much less likely to back up either militarily or (far more importantly) economically if we send the signal that we really don’t care about Europe any more. “
Europe is a net drain on US capability. And presents an outsized strategic risk in comparison to benefit.
“Why do you suppose China is backing Russia in the first place? “
Because they are terrified of the US.
“Also...I think this is all so blindingly obvious that I can’t imagine anyone truly believing that ignoring Russia won’t encourage Chinese aggression. Which is why I very much doubt the sincerity of those who claim to be opposed to Chinese expansionism while arguing we should turn a blind eye to Russia. I don’t think those people actually care about Chinese aggression either. In truth, they’re just isolationists, and don’t care about either.”
You need to expand your strategic sense.
Realists would fight existential war over the Pacific, and would withdraw from NATO.
ESPECIALLY within the context of the wealth and technical capabilities extant in Europe.
Moralizing? Morality has nothing to do with it. It is simply a measurement of will/resolve. Do we demonstrate the will to sacrifice economically/militarily to stop aggressors, or not? That's as Realpolitik as it gets.
Europe is a net drain on US capability. And presents an outsized strategic risk in comparison to benefit.
Forget militarily -- economically is where Europe -- and allied nations like Canada, Australia, etc., -- really have clout, particularly with respect to China. U.S. trade embardoes against China in the event of Chinese aggression won't mean much if Europe doesn't participate, and Europe isn't going to do squat against China if we don't join them against Russia.
“U.S. trade embardoes against China in the event of Chinese aggression won’t mean much if Europe doesn’t participate”
True. Very true.
But trade embargo is where we should be NOW. Once China floats the balloon, much, much harsher measures are warranted.
But they won’t.
While they could destroy Taiwan completely, they don’t have the means to invade and occupy even if the US does not intervene.
“It is simply a measurement of will/resolve. “
What measure? That we have the will to defend turf where we have no interests whatsoever?
That’s just a measure of stupid.
China is watching and learning.
They will decouple from the Western economies—step by step—and then invade Taiwan.
All the Western hysteria is just showing China what to expect.
China will be prepared for the “two minutes of hate”.
“Realists would fight existential war over the Pacific, and would withdraw from NATO.”
Your liberaltarian buddies will just come up with more surrender monkey excuses to be isolationist vs. China, too.
Seems to me like Putin, though committing horrendous crimes against Ukraine civilians, has done NATO a favor. He woke up the NATO nations, who are doubling their military spending, reducting and planning to go “0” Russian energy by 2024 to 2025.
With US leadership in NATO, now Euros can bear the brunt of future NATO actions if attacked.
This frees up the US to focus on Asia. Also, NATO navies are patrolling with the US in Asia. Though small, NATO naves are highly technology savvy.
Sweden and Finland coming into NATO will happen within 2 yhears if not sooner.
” He woke up the NATO nations, who are doubling their military spending, reducting and planning to go “0” Russian energy by 2024 to 2025.”
A purely European affair for purely European interests.
“Your liberaltarian buddies will just come up with more surrender monkey excuses to be isolationist vs. China, too.”
I have no buddies.
“With US leadership in NATO, now Euros can bear the brunt of future NATO actions if attacked.”
They don’t need our help and are a net strategic drain on US interests.
“NATO navies are patrolling with the US in Asia. Though small, NATO naves are highly technology savvy.”
When European can put even a Surface Action Group in WestPac full time they could be considered an asset. They cannot and therefore are not an asset.
Japan is an asset. To a limited extent Australia and So Korea are assets.
The Europeans are a joke, at best.
But we're not. Biden just lifted a bunch of stuff today. S regardless of what you and I think should happen...it isn't.
Once China floats the balloon, much, much harsher measures are warranted.
I agree. But we're talking deterrence, right? So the issues isn't what you and I think the U.S. "should" do, but rather what China believes we will do. It is entirely possible they conclude that we're not willing to get into a shooting war over Taiwan. So if there is no military deterrence, what's left?
This is why western unity on economic sanctions is so important. Because even if China thinks we won't get in a shooting war over Taivwan, would they still be willing to attack if they are convinced that all the other great economies of the world -- and India likely would join us -- would embargo them? Is Taiwan really worth being economically isolated indefinitely? They are even more dependent on the rest of the world collectively than we are on them.
This is exactly why I said China is using Russia as a crash-test dummy to measure western resolve against aggression, and why they are arguing so strongly against economic sanctions. The last thing they want to see is unified western (again including Japan, S. Korea, etc.) economic resolve against Russia, because they know what that would likely mean for them as well.
China is watching everything we do with respect to Russia, and I think it is critical that we realize that.
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