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Russia no longer demanding Ukraine be ‘denazified’ in ceasefire talks
Financial Times ^ | 3/28/2022 | Max Seddon

Posted on 03/28/2022 12:57:27 PM PDT by marcusmaximus

Russia is no longer requesting Ukraine be “denazified” and is prepared to let Kyiv join the EU if it remains military non-aligned as part of ongoing ceasefire negotiations, according to four people briefed on the discussions.

Moscow and Kyiv are discussing a pause in hostilities as part of a possible deal that would involve Ukraine abandoning its drive for Nato membership in exchange for security guarantees and the prospect to join the EU, the people said under the condition of anonymity because the matter is not yet finalised.

The draft ceasefire document does not contain any discussion of three of Russia’s initial core demands — “denazification”, “demilitarisation”, and legal protection for the Russian language in Ukraine — the people added.

Envoys from both sides are to meet in Istanbul on Tuesday in a fourth round of peace talks designed to end president Vladimir Putin’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine. The concessions on Russia’s side come as its month-long ground offensive has largely stalled as a result of fiercer Ukrainian resistance than expected and Russian operational deficiencies.

But Ukraine and its western backers remain sceptical of Putin’s intentions, worrying that the Russian president could be using the talks as a smokescreen to replenish his exhausted forces and plan a fresh offensive.

(Excerpt) Read more at ft.com ...


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To: dfwgator

“There is no “American Media”, it’s all global now.”

How can it be global with only about 700,000 viewers?


61 posted on 03/28/2022 2:29:39 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

It’s a question of who controls the media.


62 posted on 03/28/2022 2:30:54 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Husker24

It might be a 2 member “NATO”. UK and Turkey.


63 posted on 03/28/2022 2:32:28 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: Stingray51

The Anonymous sources for this article are the Russian negotiators. That is important to know.

It’s also important to understand what the Russian sources are leaving out in their leaks to the FT.

Which is Ukraine would only be allowed to keep 24,000-48,000 troops in the Russian proposal which is unacceptable to the Ukrainian side of course.

That’s why the Russians are framing things this way with no denazification and no NATO. They don’t want to talk about their proposed Ukrainian troop levels.


64 posted on 03/28/2022 2:39:25 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: Brilliant

De-Putin Russia, for sure. Even when he is deposed, there will be a successor. Russia should be divided up for 50 years like Germany was after WWII.


65 posted on 03/28/2022 2:45:47 PM PDT by Textide (Lord, grant that I may always be right, for thou knowest I am hard to turn. ~ Scotch-Irish prayer)
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To: dfwgator

“It’s a question of who controls the media.”

I understand that. But, if what you control is pretty much nothing (from a holdings standpoint), and the little that there is, is in America, I’d say that is “American media.”


66 posted on 03/28/2022 2:45:50 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: marcusmaximus

Ukraine will be “denazified” when the last Russian сука crawls back to Russia.


67 posted on 03/28/2022 2:47:40 PM PDT by Kozak (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TV)
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To: HollyB
No, I hadn't seen that.

Thanks for the heads-up!

68 posted on 03/28/2022 2:49:26 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
I guess the new Heil salute is fist to the chest, but some slip and do the original version, eh? How about them flags.

Azov was started and funded by a Jewish oligarch Kolomoisky and is now fighting to the death to protect Jewish Ukrainian President Zelensky.

69 posted on 03/28/2022 2:50:23 PM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: Alas Babylon!

How about an internationally-supervised plebiscite in the areas that were in rebellion, without Russian interference, to find out what the local inhabitants really want. After the last 8 years many of them may prefer reuniting with Ukraine.


70 posted on 03/28/2022 2:51:33 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: marcusmaximus

Guess the kook brigade here will have to drop the nazi angle.


71 posted on 03/28/2022 2:51:54 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Kozak

If wishes were horses, beggars would ride...


72 posted on 03/28/2022 2:54:09 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: DoughtyOne

Yep. Thieving Putinists have raised the Russian flag on Mariupol while their useful idiots in the west cheer them on.


73 posted on 03/28/2022 2:58:58 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: Alas Babylon!

It seems to me that Ukraine should agree to this, just to stop all the death and destruction.


It seems to me the woman should just enjoy the sex since the rape is going to happen anyway.


74 posted on 03/28/2022 3:00:13 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: marcusmaximus

In addition to leaving all of Ukraine, The Russians should be required to leave Transnistria and Kalingrad. Also, only soldiers should be allowed to leave. All their equipment stays behind.


75 posted on 03/28/2022 3:00:52 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative ( )
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To: TChad

If Putin and Zelensky reach an agreement, will Biden accept it?


Happily. Brandon can’t wait to get Ukraine off his plate and back to partnering with “Butcher” Putin on nuking up Death to America Iran.


76 posted on 03/28/2022 3:02:08 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: marcusmaximus

That’s because the Azov bastards were squashed in their stronghold of Mariupol. The DPR flag was hoisted in the city center. Most of the rest of them in are in the cauldron in eastern Ukraine and will, know doubt, die.


77 posted on 03/28/2022 3:15:36 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Brilliant
They should denazify Russia.

No need to since the neo-Nazis vehemently hated in Russia given that original ones killed 2.7 million Russians during WWII.

Ukraine is the heart and soul of the neo-Nazi movement. Or was since they are being exterminated by the Russian military.

78 posted on 03/28/2022 3:17:31 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Brilliant

To be fair, Ukraine does have a lot.


79 posted on 03/28/2022 3:31:30 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: BenLurkin

That’s a hard no from both.


80 posted on 03/28/2022 3:33:07 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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