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Russia Has Already Lost [Looooong Read]
The War Zone ^ | March 23, 2022 | Tyler Rogoway

Posted on 03/24/2022 9:51:18 AM PDT by Yo-Yo

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Tyler makes some good points, especially on Russia's reputation with the rest of the world.

It may be that the only way for Russia to be welcomed back into the community of nations as valued trading partner is to dump Putin.

Think post-war Germany or Japan after their dictators were toppled.

Also, what are the post-Ukrainian war ramifications for Russia's military spending? (And the spending of the NATO countries.)

Clearly, Russia's military has been exposed as a paper tiger, with problems with equipment, command and control, logistics, maintenance, and precision strike capabilities. Will Russia go on a new spending spree to modernize and upgrade its military, triggering increased spending by NATO countries and starting a new cold War?

Or will Russia's pathetic performance in Ukraine realize that Russia is already so over-matched in any conventional war with the U.S./NATO that our own military budgets will be slashed?

1 posted on 03/24/2022 9:51:18 AM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Yo-Yo

“Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated” - The Russian Army


2 posted on 03/24/2022 9:53:21 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Yo-Yo

Nice blog-rant....from “Tyler Rogoway.”

Whoever that is.


3 posted on 03/24/2022 9:54:28 AM PDT by AAABEST ( NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: Yo-Yo

This was a horrible decision by Putin based on hubris and bad advice. I feel bad for people on both sides (the young Russian conscripts have not idea what they are doing there).

Given Putin’s history of being careful and calculated it is almost inexplicable that he did this and as the article states there is not real victory now for him or for Russia no matter what happens in the “battle”.


4 posted on 03/24/2022 9:54:33 AM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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To: AAABEST
Nice blog-rant....from “Tyler Rogoway.” Whoever that is.

Hey, at least I posted the whole thing, not just an excerpt. So you can't accuse me of blog-pimping.

5 posted on 03/24/2022 9:57:51 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo
It may be that the only way for Russia to be welcomed back into the community of nations as valued trading partner is to dump Putin.

Pictured: The globohomo TechnoDicktatership straightens out those backwards Russians when they come crawling back to their digital chains.

Pretty sure that the Russians rich and poor have figured out that sociopathic TechnoBullies who can steal your stuff with the flip of a switch are to be avoided at all costs.

A lot of people in the US and Canada didn't learn that particular lesson only a few shorts weeks ago.

Go figure.

6 posted on 03/24/2022 9:58:14 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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A question? Mariopol is being shelled into rubble by Russian battleships anchored off the coast. Why are these sitting duck ships not being blown out of the water?

It's almost like some group wants Mariopol, a very beautiful coastal city, turned into rubble. Perhaps to build it back better with a new better class of residents? A Baltic Riviera?

I just don't get it as to why basic military defense tactics aren't being carried out when being attacked? It makes no sense unless there is a script for this thing.

7 posted on 03/24/2022 9:59:22 AM PDT by blackdog (Today's "disinformation" most often turns out to be tomorrow's facts. )
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To: volunbeer

Brandon told him he could do it, just to not take the whole country.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/biden-minor-incursion-ukraine-putin-russia-invasion-nato-rcna12886


8 posted on 03/24/2022 9:59:55 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Depopulate the depopulationists. --FJB)
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To: volunbeer
See my post #6 for an explanation.

Further proof:

Mean Ol' Pootie sticking it to the Euroweenies with the ruble yesterday.

The Russians are NOT coming back to the Digital Slave Circus.

9 posted on 03/24/2022 10:00:08 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: volunbeer

Imagine Russia with military bases and offensive weapons in Cuba (and our response) or imagine Mexico allied with China them having military bases in a break-away republic of California.

Then will start to understand “this horrible decision” by Putin.


10 posted on 03/24/2022 10:01:13 AM PDT by PGR88
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“Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated” - The Russian Army

What are we to make of your competence? - NATO

11 posted on 03/24/2022 10:01:39 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: AAABEST

Whoever that is.

Tyler Rogoway is one of the most respected military writers online. His site is top notch for all things military.


12 posted on 03/24/2022 10:02:42 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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Agreed.

when I think of it compared to us going into Afghanistan, the major difference is that Putin didn't announce ahead of time that they were going into war only half-way, to "win over hearts and minds", and such. Putin went to war to takeover, no ifs, ands, or buts about it, and so far it's looking a lot harder than he made it out to be.

I can't stand how we went into Afghanistan. And I can't stand us going into Iraq. But at least one good thing about Iraq is we showed how quickly and powerfully we can "shock and awe" and depose a tiny ruler if we want to. Between Afghanistan and Iraq we showed that the only thing we fail at militarily is trying to force democracy onto a culture that respects only jihad and pedo. Russia, at least from the optics, is struggling at taking over land from a tiny nation.

13 posted on 03/24/2022 10:03:35 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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Think post-war Germany or Japan after their dictators were toppled

The Emperor of Japan was allowed to stay, although I don't think that's really equivalent.

14 posted on 03/24/2022 10:04:57 AM PDT by libertylover (Our BIGGEST problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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What are those squarish things on the top surfaces of the tank?


15 posted on 03/24/2022 10:05:40 AM PDT by libertylover (Our BIGGEST problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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What are we to make of your competence? - NATO

“Perhaps NATO could mentor us with their expansive experience in Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, etc.?” - Mother Russia
16 posted on 03/24/2022 10:08:00 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Fred Nerks

Ping t o an update on the battles of Ukraine.........but will the conflict now go with Sarin and TActical Nukes?


17 posted on 03/24/2022 10:08:42 AM PDT by Candor7 (ObamaFascism:https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: libertylover

Active armor. Basically shaped charges that blow outward to break up or vaporize incoming projectiles.


18 posted on 03/24/2022 10:08:59 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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What are those squarish things on the top surfaces of the tank?

Reactive armor.

It is a defense against shaped-charge warheads such as RPGs.

19 posted on 03/24/2022 10:09:52 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: libertylover

Reactive armor. They’re supposed to blow up and outward at charges coming into them, thus preventing the weapon from penetrating the armor, and killing the soft targets inside.


20 posted on 03/24/2022 10:10:29 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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