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Commentary: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem (2018)
Reuters ^ | 03/19/2018 | Josh Cohen

Posted on 03/18/2022 1:22:51 AM PDT by Az Joe

As Ukraine’s struggle against Russia and its proxies continues, Kiev must also contend with a growing problem behind the front lines: far-right vigilantes who are willing to use intimidation and even violence to advance their agendas, and who often do so with the tacit approval of law enforcement agencies.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: neonazis; russiahasnazis; russiannazis2; ukraine; usaneonazis2
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1 posted on 03/18/2022 1:22:51 AM PDT by Az Joe
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To: Az Joe

Russia has a bigger neo-nazi problem.

Because the Nazi mutherfers are in the Kremlim.


2 posted on 03/18/2022 1:26:51 AM PDT by Reaganez
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To: Reaganez

So, Ukraine isn’t the land of unicorns, sunflowers and honey?!!

Noooooooo!


3 posted on 03/18/2022 1:28:11 AM PDT by Az Joe ("Scratch a Liberal, and a Fascist bleeds")
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To: Reaganez

As predictable as the rising sun.


4 posted on 03/18/2022 1:30:16 AM PDT by Long Jon No Silver
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To: Az Joe; Pelham; Travis McGee

Amazing Reuters went outside the box on this one

This is war is over pretty much

It’ll be settled and Pootle gets what he wants

The globalist media tech mafia will make some narrative to claim a victory

If not at some point Putkn plays the Grozny card....I pray that is avoided

How Azov is handled is touchy

They aren’t making pals in Donbas and the Russian separatists might not be in the mood to parole them

They should though and think big picture...they get What they’ve fought for over a decade

Uke ethnics in Donbas lose

Odessa is spared which surprises me

I just want it to end...the outcome is a fair accompli

No need for more to die ...for western propaganda and us domestic politics


5 posted on 03/18/2022 1:34:20 AM PDT by wardaddy (Free Republic has gone insane but it's fun)
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To: Long Jon No Silver

Do tell


6 posted on 03/18/2022 1:34:33 AM PDT by Az Joe ("Scratch a Liberal, and a Fascist bleeds")
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To: Az Joe

I meant Reaganez. Not you


7 posted on 03/18/2022 1:55:29 AM PDT by Long Jon No Silver
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To: Az Joe

One mistaken impression that many people have - that the neo-Nazis are somehow “far-right”. They are nowhere near that on any spectrum. National Socialism is only to the “right” of International Socialism, more commonly called “Communism”.

Command-and-control regimes are all pretty much the same in their view of how society should be organized. A small and tightly held oligarchy at the top, with strong partisans to carry out their housekeeping chores as their vassals, and the vast number of the proletariat, who have few if any rights and are supposed to be kept in the dark, covered up with horse manure, much like mushrooms, a crop to be harvested for the lone benefit of the oligarchy. To facilitate this organization, the entire social organization is set up in a manner similar to that of an anthill, with the queen, surrounded by the palace guard, totally reliant on a dependable and expendable mass of worker ants. The only “debate” that ever takes place is when an insurgent in the palace guard either moves in to replace the queen should she die, or a constant struggle to usurp the queen’s rule by murdering the queen. Command-and-control regimes do not have elections.

Looking back on the long stretch of human history, this has been largely the way most societies in the past have been organized. A king, and his supporters, the nobility, hold sway in feudal societies, and the peasants are the worker ants, doing the harvesting and scut work.

This does not have to be. There was a period, following the time known as the Dark Ages, when a dawning of consciousness came to the peasant class, and the rigid hierarchy was overthrown, and something like the “rule of the people” came to the forefront. This was most dramatically executed in the colonies established in North America, when the rule by a distant king was repudiated by a revolution that threw off the yoke of royal rule, and established a means by which the leadership did not remain in the hands of only a select few for life, but could be changed and renewed on a periodic basis. This meant giving a voice to the voiceless, and holding leaders accountable for missteps and careless execution of duties of the office of leadership. Thus was the Great American Experiment formed, and it worked remarkably well for at least a couple of centuries.

This philosophy was expressed by Alexander Fraser Tytler, Lord Woodhouselee, as follows:

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.”

Very acute observation.


8 posted on 03/18/2022 2:06:05 AM PDT by alloysteel (There are folks running the government who shouldn't be allowed to play with matches - Will Rogers)
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To: Az Joe
This seems to belong here... ;-)


9 posted on 03/18/2022 2:07:53 AM PDT by EasySt (Say not this is the truth, but so it seems to me to be, as I see this thing I think I see.#MAGA)
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To: wardaddy
Amazing Reuters went outside the box on this one

(The article is from 2018).

10 posted on 03/18/2022 2:08:03 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: agere_contra

Explains why doesn’t it


11 posted on 03/18/2022 2:08:44 AM PDT by wardaddy (Free Republic has gone insane but it's fun)
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To: wardaddy

(I didn’t read the FR headline properly at first, but the article kept mentioning Poroshenko.)


12 posted on 03/18/2022 2:12:39 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Az Joe

I don’t know who lives where but I don’t trust the MSM or leftist government on any of it.


13 posted on 03/18/2022 2:37:00 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: EasySt

Yes it does!

Thanks, you beat me to it.


14 posted on 03/18/2022 2:48:37 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: alloysteel

>>One mistaken impression that many people have - that the neo-Nazis are somehow “far-right”. They are nowhere near that on any spectrum. National Socialism is only to the “right” of International Socialism, more commonly called “Communism”.

See the Hayek quote on my FR profile page. 3rd one down, two paragraphs.

He explained this quite well in the mid-1940s.


15 posted on 03/18/2022 2:50:14 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: All

Der Leader Putin is the tyrant Nazi.


16 posted on 03/18/2022 3:14:25 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Defeating China is impossible without understanding that Russia is our enemy)
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To: Az Joe

Ukraine has killed 14,000 pro-Russian Ukrainians that want their independence since 2014.

Ukraine has incorporated the NAZIs into their armed forces and used them as the battering ram against their own citizens.

Zelensky could not control them and then embraced the Azov NAZIs last year, which escalated matters.

Ukrainian gov’t hands are covered in blood. They are not innocents by any means.


17 posted on 03/18/2022 3:17:59 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being played by forces most do not understand)
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To: FreedomPoster

Re Hayek;

Unfortunately we’re a long way from the 1940s America.

But Hayek was spot-on.


18 posted on 03/18/2022 3:19:59 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.She was, indeed, a hottie… Rest in peace, Joanne.)
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To: agere_contra

“...tacit approval of law enforcement agencies”

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The noted law enforcement agencies knew at that time (2018) that the aforementioned Nazis (Neo-nothing...they asre straight up Nazis) were operating with U.S. knowledge, approval and support.


19 posted on 03/18/2022 3:22:05 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: one guy in new jersey

The media keep calling them Nazis, but are rather sparse on what these guys DO which they find so objectionable.

Except for being against “LGBT rights”.


20 posted on 03/18/2022 3:38:37 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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