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Top Russian general reportedly detained as Putin targets 'traitors' amid Ukraine invasion
https://www.foxnews.com/ ^ | 3/17/2022

Posted on 03/17/2022 12:43:01 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19

The deputy chief of Russian’s National Guard was reportedly detained Thursday amid news that Russian President Vladimir Putin is cracking down on disloyalty within his ranks following the invasion of Ukraine.

Russian Gen. Roman Gavrilov, of Rosgvardia, the internal military force of the Russian Federation that reports directly to the president of the Russian Federation, was detained by the Russian security and counterintelligence agency, Federal Security Service (FSB), according to Christo Grozev, CEO of the Netherlands-based investigative journalism group Bellingcat.

The reason for Gavrilov's detention wasn’t immediately clear. Grozev said one of his sources told him that Gavrilov was detained by the FSB's military counter-intelligence department over "leaks of military info that led to loss of life," while two other sources said the reason was for "wasteful squandering of fuel."

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1 posted on 03/17/2022 12:43:01 PM PDT by RomanSoldier19
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To: RomanSoldier19

Oh, like a Jan 6er?


2 posted on 03/17/2022 12:44:48 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Are we sure putin’s really not Austrian?......all this sounds eerily familiar.


3 posted on 03/17/2022 12:45:06 PM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave)
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To: rktman

Oh, like a Jan 6er?

Thanks for the reminder.


4 posted on 03/17/2022 12:46:16 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Encourage and fund our liberals & Antifa to move to Canada. Conservative Canadians can move here!)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Eventually he’s going to piss off the wrong General.


5 posted on 03/17/2022 12:47:06 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: RomanSoldier19

No doubt he will be replaced with a corrupt AND incompetent sycophant.

Collapsing from within.


6 posted on 03/17/2022 12:47:36 PM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: V_TWIN

I have a winning plan that Putin could dangle in front of his troops. They will all get to emigrate to Brooklyn after the conquest of Ukraine to work telephone card scams, Mob wetwork and have as many botoxed, lip injected over makeupped 23 year old Russian whores they want.


7 posted on 03/17/2022 12:48:37 PM PDT by pburgh01
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To: V_TWIN

Ernst Rohm?..............


8 posted on 03/17/2022 12:48:55 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: V_TWIN

A Georgian beat the Austrian to it by 6 or 7 years.


9 posted on 03/17/2022 12:50:24 PM PDT by xkaydet65 ( )
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To: RomanSoldier19
You know, it's a crying shame that the copyright holders of the movie Downfall forced all of the "Hitler Reacts" video meme generators to be pulled down.

This whole Putin/Ukraine Invasion mess would be comedic gold in a "Hitler Reacts to Ukraine Invasion Failure" vid.

10 posted on 03/17/2022 12:51:35 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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Top Russian general reportedly detained as Putin targets 'traitors' amid Ukraine invasion

Alexander Vindman was promoted to General in Russia?

11 posted on 03/17/2022 12:55:15 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: RomanSoldier19; All
All hope is not lost! It ain't the greatest, but I found this:

Putler reacts to Ukraine not being defeated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmN4cLRTeX8

12 posted on 03/17/2022 12:57:36 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Red Badger

A little higher up the ladder


13 posted on 03/17/2022 1:05:22 PM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Yep Stalin came to Putin in a Dream , LOL


14 posted on 03/17/2022 1:07:38 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: RomanSoldier19

Roman Gavrilov, deputy director of the Federal Service of the National Guard of the Russian Federation - Commander-in-Chief of the National Guard of the Russian Federation

6th spot down in Command Chain
Likely did squander fuel

From Wiki:
The National Guard of Russia is organized into a composed structure, consisting of six broad elements:
National Guard Forces Command (Войска национальной гвардии), which handles the operational units (formerly belonging to the Interior Troops);

including the ODON and the National Guard Naval Service Corps;

National Guard Special Operations and Aviation Center, including Zubr, Vityaz, Rus and Yastreb special units;

National Guard (Note: this is a Spetsnaz unit->)SOBR, (Note: this is a Ukraine unit->)Berkut and (Note: this is a Special police unit->)OMON Units;

Administrations and other departments exercising federal oversight over firearms and private security regulation, personal protection and government personnel security guard service, including the Center for Specially Designated Government Personnel Security Protection (formerly belonging to the MVD);

The federal state unitary enterprise “Okhrana” (provides paid security / rapid response services to citizens).


15 posted on 03/17/2022 1:08:42 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: RomanSoldier19

This general is getting accused of not foddering enough for the motherland.


16 posted on 03/17/2022 1:18:12 PM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: V_TWIN
Are we sure putin’s really not Austrian?......all this sounds eerily familiar.

Palace intrigues and territorial aggrandizement are well within the human experience at least over thousands of years. Russian territorial gains weren't achieved around a campfire by a bunch of village chiefs singing kumbaya. Russia (Novgorod, really) in 1215:

Russia in 1214, at the dawn of the Great War, several years before the last of the de jure Tsars was killed:

Richard Pipes, the eminent Russia watcher who served in the Reagan administration, had interesting things to say about Russia's essentially Oriental character:

Pipes wrote many books on Russian history, including Russia under the Old Regime (1974), The Russian Revolution (1990), and Russia Under the Bolshevik Regime (1994), and was a frequent interviewee in the press on the matters of Soviet history and foreign affairs. His writings also appear in Commentary, The New York Times, and The Times Literary Supplement. At Harvard, he taught large courses on Imperial Russia as well as the Russian Revolution and guided over 80 graduate students to their PhDs.

Pipes is known for arguing that the origins of the Soviet Union can be traced to the separate path taken by 15th-century Muscovy, in a Russian version of the Sonderweg thesis. In Pipes’ opinion, Muscovy differed from every other State in Europe in that it had no concept of private property, and that everything was regarded as the property of the Grand Duke/Tsar. In Pipes’ view, this separate path undertaken by Russia (possibly under Mongol influence) ensured that Russia would be an autocratic state with values fundamentally dissimilar from those of Western civilization. Pipes argued that this “patrimonialism” of Imperial Russia started to break down when Russian leaders attempted to modernize in the 19th century, without seeking to change the basic “patrimonial” structure of Russian society. In Pipes’s opinion, this separate course undertaken by Russia over the centuries made Russia uniquely open to revolution in 1917. Pipes strongly criticized the values of the radical intelligentsia of late Imperial Russia for what he sees as their fanaticism and inability to accept reality. Pipes stressed that the Soviet Union was an expansionist, totalitarian state bent on world conquest.[20] He is also known for the thesis that, contrary to many traditional histories of the Soviet Union at the time, the October Revolution was, rather than a popular general uprising, a coup foisted upon the majority of the Russian population by a tiny segment of the population driven by a select group of intellectuals who subsequently established a one-party dictatorship that was intolerant and repressive from the start.[21]

In what was meant to be an “off-the-record” interview, Pipes told Reuters in March 1981 that “Soviet leaders would have to choose between peacefully changing their Communist system in the direction followed by the West or going to war. There is no other alternative and it could go either way – Détente is dead.” Pipes also stated in the interview that Foreign Minister Hans-Dietrich Genscher of West Germany was susceptible to pressure from the Soviets. It was learned independently that Pipes was the official who spoke to Reuters. This potentially jeopardized Pipes’ job. The White House and the “incensed” State Department issued statements repudiating Pipes’ statements.[22]

In 1992, Pipes served as an expert witness in the Constitutional Court of Russia’s trial of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.[23]


17 posted on 03/17/2022 1:38:02 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: PIF
Squander? Or stole. I wonder just how much of Russia's procurement budgets have been stolen over the years.

At least our contractors only steal by doing decades long development for billions without pretending to deliver non-working hardware or stealing fuel. Although I guess we'll see if the $4 billion per flight Artemis will ever fly.

18 posted on 03/17/2022 1:38:38 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: RomanSoldier19

Bkmk


19 posted on 03/17/2022 1:40:12 PM PDT by sauropod (Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad.)
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To: Yo-Yo

I’ve seen some versions of it in Chinese, yes despite the CCP ban on reporting negative Russian news, there are still pockets of people in China mocking Putin’s failing invasion.


20 posted on 03/17/2022 1:40:56 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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