Posted on 03/14/2022 10:15:15 AM PDT by gattaca
The Biden administration’s objections to the transfer of MiG-29s from Poland to Ukraine have been perplexing to many commentators and analysts, as have their purported explanations.
The latest of which, supposedly from the DoD, was that the transfer of the aircraft would have little effect and be too provocative. MiG-29s wouldn’t be helpful? Really?
And yet, these arguments have been rejected by many generals and experts who believe these MiG-29 aircraft could make a difference in the ability of Ukraine to defend itself, and see little escalatory difference from the weapons we are currently providing.
In fact, Ukraine, with its current force of fifty-six MiGs has indicated that the 50% increase this would represent will help them achieve a critical mass necessary to combat the Russians.
Not Just MiG-29s: Why Joe Biden Isn’t Helping Ukraine As Much as He Could
But the truth is the administration has been providing only limited support for quite some time.
Even back in November before the invasion, when they were warning vociferously of it, Ukraine’s request for Harpoon anti-ship missiles was denied, with which it could have defended its ports.
More recently, the administration has balked at a ban on Russian oil, only agreeing to it under pressure from House Democrats.
So why is the Administration throwing Ukraine under the proverbial bridge and giving these tepid explanations?
Maybe, because it has something that it wants far more, and it needs the Russians for it. Maybe, it’s the new Iran nuclear deal. And, the White House wants it so badly, it is willing to placate Russia on Ukraine by blocking the transfer.
Note that the transfer of an array of weapons to Ukraine has received vast and rare bi-partisan support through the recent passage of the funding bill, with $13.6 billion in aid.
Likewise, senators and congressmen from both parties have called for the transfer of these fighters, as well as other arms.
But the administration keeps coming up with excuses, first signaling it endorsed the transfer but blaming Poland for the delay, and then upon having their hands forced when Poland offered to fly the planes to Ramstein Air Base and turn them over to the US, came the latest explanations. Supposedly from DOD.
This makes us look spineless, disorganized, and without resolve, when it is increasingly clear NATO is capable of crushing Russia.
It makes us look afraid.
But, it does inspire the Russians to press further. And given this confusion, it’s time for the administration to be honest as to what is important to them. Currently, it doesn’t appear to be Ukraine.
Forget the questionable decision to continue relying on the Russians as mediators in our negotiations with Iran. Our legislators need to know the administration’s true priorities, as well as the other NATO members, so we don’t look indecisive in this war.
It only signals weakness to the rest of the world, including China.
And not all of it needs to be shared publically, like virtually everything else that has been shared about what we will not be willing to do.
Notice that Putin acts, then he tells you what he wants, and he does so with a hammer.
He doesn’t ask permission.
We may wish to consider the same strategy because he has been out-maneuvering and out-bluffing us and because NATO appears paralyzed.
Beyond the MiG-29 Fiasco
But before we do that, we need to be in agreement as to what our priorities are.
Personally, I think we owe it to Ukraine, we got them to divest of their nukes with an implicit promise of protection; without that, this would probably not have occurred. And they are fighting courageously and our words and principles matter.
But I am not in a position to make policy, it is our administration, NATO, and our legislature. And the question is how do we want to define ourselves?
Because this is not the only threat or challenge that the US or NATO will likely confront.
I don’t necessarily agree with all of this, but I thought it was interesting.
Probably most of the Ukrainian Biden corruption is already public. But Russia still has the other Hunter laptop.
When it comes to this subject he maybe smarter than most freepers.
It’s also that Biden (and a few other democrats) are compromised with the Russians and Chinese, and are handicapped from doing anything other than showing ‘basic support’ for Ukraine. Russia has the goods on Biden, and so do the Chinese.
It is true that Russia is negotiating with Iran on the United States' behalf for a new Iran Nuclear Deal.
The sticking point right now is that Russia wants to be able to sell weapons to the Iranians, and want assurances from the United States that sanctions won't preclude these sales. So far, the U.S. has remained uncommitted to the point.
But get this: If the deal goes through, then the United States will pay Iran $90 billion in frozen assets, allow Iran to sell oil on the open market, and a good chunk of that money would go straight into Putin's pocket for weapons.
Lets Go Brandon!
Is it the same promise to the Russians when the US/NATO said that it would not expand NATO in the Eastern European area in order to allow Germany to reunify?
To me it seems very simple. Poland has been the crazy uncle of the EU for some time now.
They didn’t accept Muslim refugees.
They are not LGBT friendly.
They have one of the lowest vaccination rates in the EU.
The Mig deal was a setup. We encouraged them to fly armed planes from Poland into Ukrainian airspace where they would be immediately shot down.
Poland and Russia would then be at war. Giving the US an excuse to fully enter the conflict in protection of another NATO country.
Poland, being wise to the trick, offered to give the planes to the US who could fly them into Ukraine themselves.
The US refused, knowing exactly what would happen.
The SOBs in the deepstate are just itching for WWIII
Interesting. Thanks. I’m a believer in Biden is an equal enemy as Putin. Perhaps, in a roundabout way more so.6
Ukraine is a small country suffering as we all know as experts everywhere unanimously agree.
Poland has some airplanes. Airplanes go fast. Imagine zero emissions airplanes? You have! Because I just told you to!
These airplanes drop bombs. That makes some people mad. We can't have such macro-aggression making people mad.
Planes fly in clouds. Clouds are fragile. Planes are bad.
Carbon. Thank You, and God (or your safe space deity) Bless our Built Back Better Amerka.
ames Refalo et al who want broken down old MiGs to fly into a missile barrage as they land in the Ukraine. Answer the questions posed in this posted FR article (flippant and incomplete answers do not count):
The ‘No-Fly Zone’ Test Want to put U.S. or allied aircraft over Ukraine? Answer these questions first.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4046547/posts
The one question I have not heard answered is: Why can’t some other country broker this deal? Why does it have to be the U.S.?
“promise to the Russians when the US/NATO said that it would not expand NATO in the Eastern European”
Why are you spewing Russian propaganda? We did no such thing. Russia lost. When you enslave entire countries, this is what happens, they come running to NATO for support.
It has worked as no NATO nations have been invaded by Putin.
MiG-29s wouldn’t be helpful? Really?
Maybe. What Model and Block are they? Can they be integrated into the current Ukrainian fleet? What software and firmware versions are they running? How well have they been maintained? Are there spare parts? Is there O/I/D-level maintenance available? Are there munitions and pylons? Is there compatible test and ground equipment? Are there enough Ukrainian pilots and ground crew?
There are lots of questions to ask and answer.
As Americans. Only Americans. Not as members of NATO, the UN, the WEF, etc.
Which Ukranians gave 10% to the Big Guy? Were they the Russian sympathetic Ukranians (which I hear pretty much all of the rich Ukranians are)?
If we did supply Ukraine with MIG-29’s how would they avoid being accidently shot down by Ukrainian forces on the ground by SAMs? Where could they be safely based in country? How would they be serviced and rearmed? Logistical support for these aircraft would cause escalation of the conflict. These are daunting questions.
Probably most of the Ukrainian Biden corruption is already public. But Russia still has the other Hunter laptop.
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Maybe it’s really about what Russia got from psaki for that neat pink commie hat /-)
Or, more likely
What Russia has that our district of cartels fear most is
decades
of dirt on the district of cartels.
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Is it the same promise to the Russians when the US/NATO said that it would not expand NATO in the Eastern European area in order to allow Germany to reunify?
***I don’t remember that promise at all. Got some kind of link? Did we SIGN that promise, like we signed the Budapest Agreement?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine%E2%80%93NATO_relations
NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg stressed that Russia will not be able to veto Ukraine’s accession to NATO “as we will not return to the era of spheres of interest, when large countries decide what smaller ones should do.”[12]
.... 69% of Ukrainians want to join NATO, according to a June 2017 poll by the Democratic Initiatives Foundation,
I thought NATO was supposed be a defender of its member countries, not a mercenary force going to war in non-NATO conflicts.
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