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Pregnant woman, baby die after Russia bombed maternity ward
AP ^ | March 14, 2022 | MSTYSLAV CHERNOV

Posted on 03/14/2022 3:01:14 AM PDT by McGruff

A pregnant woman and her baby have died after Russia bombed the maternity hospital where she was meant to give birth, The Associated Press has learned. Images of the woman being rushed to an ambulance on a stretcher had circled the world, epitomizing the horror of an attack on humanity’s most innocent.

The woman was rushed to another hospital, yet closer to the frontline, where doctors labored to keep her alive. Realizing she was losing her baby, medics said, she cried out to them, “Kill me now!”

Surgeon Timur Marin found the woman’s pelvis crushed and hip detached. Medics delivered the baby via cesarean section, but it showed “no signs of life,” the surgeon said.

Then, they focused on the mother.

“More than 30 minutes of resuscitation of the mother didn’t produce results,” Marin said Saturday.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.com ...


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To: McGruff

Yep - the actress/influencer played two different pregnant women at the same time - and they wonder why many of us think Putin is being maligned...


61 posted on 03/14/2022 4:55:59 AM PDT by trebb (Fight like your life and future depends on it - because they do.)
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To: McGruff

Ya gotta love how easily the media can go from Fetus to Baby in their ‘news stories’. It all depends on whose propaganda they are flogging in the piece.


62 posted on 03/14/2022 5:01:58 AM PDT by Tupelo (“Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*ck things up” (Barack Obama))
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To: NorseViking; All

Really -

Wow dude - Antifa calls conservative Americans NAZI’s, and half the population believes it.

Depending on where you look, there are anywhere between 350-400, up to a few thousand neo nazi Ukrainians in the Ukraine army (out of 200,000 + troops / now upwards of 500,000 mobilized.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion

And this would be roughly consistent with the size of an actual Battalion, which is literally in the name of the NAZI battalion being focussed on.

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You will say to me “you lie”, as is your history with me.

However, when I lived Moscow, there was a significant problem with NAZI gangs, especially near the Central East side Moscow, where there was and is a true, WWII Jewish Ghetto, complete with old walls. Although the walls are old, and the gates are long gone. NAZI propaganda and efforts are still there -

I taught finance and economics in the 11th Form, and a satellite class from Moscow State University, as Jewish students from the ghetto were predominately kept from schools outside the ghetto, or were unsafe. While there, many were trying to get to Israel, as they were treated badly. (Go ahead, call me a liar)

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As well, you (NorseViking) would know to keep your mouth shut regarding the city of Yekaterinburg (in the Urals), one of the largest cities in Russia, which was NAMED after the large number of Germans taken there as slaves after WWII.

Yekaterinburg has many thousands of NAZI sympathizers and self proclaimed NAZI groups to this day, not even talking about Moscow, or some of the predominantly Muslim cities like Kazan, where we encountered NAZI’s as well.

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There are an estimated 50,000-70,000 Neo-Nazis in Russia according to multiple reports, but what’s the point.
https://borgenproject.org/neo-nazis-russia/

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Why are German neo-Nazis training in Russia?
https://www.dw.com/en/why-are-german-neo-nazis-training-in-russia/a-53702613

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Signs of Neo-Nazi Ideology Amongst Russian Mercenaries
https://informnapalm.org/en/neo-nazi-ideology-amongst-russian-mercenaries/

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President Zalensky of Ukraine is Jewish and was elected in 2019, when Trump’s SoS had severely disrupted the longstanding DNC/Kremlin corruption machine, long designed to keep Ukrainian government destabilized, and to buffer and launder political money stateside.

And the Jew was elected with well over 70% of the vote to fight corrupt oligarchs who were alternately in bed with Putin-connected Russian oligarchs.

As well, Zalensky would not be bribed, and stood for Trump, when the DNC tried to impeach him the third time over Ukraine!

Conversely, Putin recognized Trumps patriotic fervor in 2016, and multiple Kremlin poc’s were involved in transferring 17 docs to MI6 and FBI for a fraudulent dossier, to be used to keep Trump from office, or to be used to get Trump fraudulently impeached -

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Are there NAZI’s in Ukraine, yes.

Has Ukraine been successfully destabilized through corruption, absolutely -

Ukraine is unfortunately the number 2 or3 most corrupt nation in Europe after Moldova and Russia, depending the source.

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This whole NAZI thing is so stupid, and reflects either the absolute illiteracy of those using it, or it reflects their utter dishonesty... AND YES, this is truly part of a global psyop to keep conservatives on the side of Putin - Period [.]

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I am a practicing Believer, conservative to the center of my core, still serving my country, will not compromise with dishonesty and any form of evil,
and will die for what is right.

Calling me a Neo-con (implying dishonesty and bloodlist) to my face, may result in your face getting caved in.

I have long loved both the Russian and Ukrainian people, and have many Russian and Ukrainian friends.

However, I am 100% against this invasion and war.


63 posted on 03/14/2022 5:21:07 AM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: David Chase
Member of the Putin Posse?

Well, of course you're on the wrong side of the issue. You wouldn't be David Chase unless you were.

#DerpStateRabbit


64 posted on 03/14/2022 5:37:33 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Because this is a brutal, inhuman army of Orcs and Goblins even worse than the Orc army we saw in LOTR. Fortunately, they also appear to be far less effective than that Orc army as well.

The orcs took Moria, and who can forget the fall of Gondolin.

#KnowYourHistory

#NotAConspiracyTheory

#StopSupportingSoros


65 posted on 03/14/2022 5:44:59 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: trebb
and they wonder why many of us think Putin is being maligned

Lol, "Putin is being maligned"

66 posted on 03/14/2022 5:48:03 AM PDT by tlozo
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

#TeamRothschild

67 posted on 03/14/2022 5:52:31 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: HollyB
--- "We don't know what truly happened. That includes you."

I think this an apt observation. The verifiable news on any side -- I think there more than two, by the way -- in this war (police action, as we recall how war was sometimes called by our media) is little.

And given a nation that tolerates millions of dead through elective and state-funded abortions, the Associated Press "agony" over a dead "madonna and child" is the kind of message meant to appear as news, but in fact is a message placed with a purpose.

A casualty of this war on Ukraine, or neo-Nazis in Ukraine, or drugs, or Covid, or equity, or poverty or.... is the media itself. And the wounds are self-inflicted.

To summarize: "We don't know what truly happened." That includes us all.

Best wishes.

68 posted on 03/14/2022 5:55:20 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time
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To: Tupelo
--- "Ya gotta love how easily the media can go from Fetus to Baby in their ‘news stories’. It all depends on whose propaganda they are flogging in the piece."

An excellent observation. Especially given that some American politics wants to deny medical care to an infant born which survived attempts at saline abortion.

Kudos for this "catch."

69 posted on 03/14/2022 5:59:39 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time
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To: bagster

Team Globohomo.
They push deviancy and unilateral thought.
Globalists are far more dangerous than Putin or Muslims.
They’re the ones trying to destroy all “white” countries by importing filth.


70 posted on 03/14/2022 6:02:13 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: McGruff

The problem with having completely lying, agenda-driven media is that you can’t believe ANYTHING produced from them.

Sorry, I don’t believe any of this fear/war porn.

The media should read “the Boy Who Cried Wolf” again.

I just remember the “Weapons of Mass Destruction”.


71 posted on 03/14/2022 6:03:27 AM PDT by Baldwin77 (If you put anything into my body WITHOUT my consent, IT IS RAPE.)
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To: McGruff

Propaganda.


72 posted on 03/14/2022 6:07:01 AM PDT by nonliberal (Z)
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To: ClearCase_guy

It’s strange there is not one bit of debris from the interior of these hospital rooms. No sheets, tables mattresses. That stuff seems like it would be everywhere. The rooms are empty shells.


73 posted on 03/14/2022 6:10:03 AM PDT by Allthesaints
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To: ClearCase_guy

Notice the red sheet or blanket draped over the stretcher in the middle of the shot to highlight the woman in an all colorless pic.

The propaganda that has been proven has ruined any credibility of news from Ukraine. Not worth fighting about.


74 posted on 03/14/2022 6:20:07 AM PDT by dforest
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To: McGruff

Straight out of “Wag the Dog.”


75 posted on 03/14/2022 6:30:51 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong [FJB])
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To: McGruff

The very first question that comes to mind... How close were the intended targets of the bombing to said maternity ward??


76 posted on 03/14/2022 6:32:45 AM PDT by sit-rep ( )
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To: Allthesaints; All

From the ground photos/imagery, notice the L shaped, (or slmetimes H with legs cut off) layout of structures, which create a courtyard -

In a courtyard or boxed penetrator blast, the courtyard (box or L shape) creates a blast/shockwave tunnel effect-

*From the photo/imagery/footage of the “hospital”, this is a typical Soviet style hospital school layout, or at times a hospital layout with courtyard.

In Western Russia, these Soviet Army built structures are almost always prefabricated, light steal reinforced/weld assembled structures, typically 2 to 4, and up to 6 floors.

Sometimes the Soviet era school layouts have been repurposed to sanitarium’s and other medical type facilities. (I have also stayed in them)

What we see ••

Stationary ground target -
Large courtyard crater -
Outward/upward blast from deep, high volume crater -

From the deep crater in the courtyard imagery, there are a number of munitions which are possible. However, based on the depth of the crater (at least 5m to 7m), and the volume of earth blown out of the crater (possibly 15m to 20m diam), the following could have been used -

BetAB-500 (1000lb rocket propelled or air dropped, used extensively in Syria from 2014-2015)

KAB-500L (L-guide similar to US PaveWay)
KAB-1500Lpr (L-guide deep penetrator)
Kh-59MKM/s (280km range missile deep penetrator - expensive)

Other similar craters -

Notice the boy standing in the Syrian crater here -

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/26/hell-itself-aleppo-reels-from-alleged-use-of-bunker-buster-bombs

There are other bombs in the arsenal, but if I were to build a BDA brief on this target, I would state “Possible” Russian 1000 lb BETAB-500, or KAB-500L, based on depth + diameter, and volume of earth displaced.

As well, the large blast just inside (or adjacent to) the courtyard would have blown all windows and doors outward from the blast crater, easily leaving no visible windows or doors. As well, any blast capable of that crater, would easily wipe out or buried landscape.

We can literally see trees completely stripped to their trunks, and the blast crater easily and significantly blew out an entire tree stump.

This was typically what analysts saw across Russian targeted structures and blocks of cities throughout cities in Syria, Chechnya, Georgia, and even Libya.

Be a little weird to see soft remaining inward debris from a very large outward blast, which left only lower trunks of sizable trees.

As well, imagery from above shows the roofs were nearly blown out as well.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-kyiv-europe-2bed71c00916d44ea951c5809b446db3

From the “airbreather” imagery above, the roof of the L shaped structures were nearly blown off.


77 posted on 03/14/2022 10:11:34 AM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: McGruff

The woman in the picture is a famous Ukrainian beauty products model. This is a fake. There’s another sad pic of her walking out of the hospital with blood on her face except the hospital isn’t damaged.


78 posted on 03/14/2022 10:22:41 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: EEGator

The baby died also, the medics on scene did a c-section but the baby was dead.
The Mother suffered extensive pelvis and lower extremities injuries.


79 posted on 03/14/2022 2:13:47 PM PDT by David Chase
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To: David Chase

I believe nothing from either crooked shithole.


80 posted on 03/14/2022 2:18:14 PM PDT by EEGator
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