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No, Electric Vehicles won’t impact the grid or overload it, debunking anti -electric vehicle myths.
https://www.virta.global/blog/myth-buster-electric-vehicles-will-overload-the-power-grid ^

Posted on 03/09/2022 4:59:00 AM PST by Morpheus2009

Will a mass transition to electric vehicles (EVs) cause the electric power grid to collapse? Some argue that EVs will make the grid unstable, which could mean hefty investments to upgrade existing infrastructures in order to withstand the electricity uptake

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KEYWORDS: globalwarminghoax
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To: Travis McGee
I'd say your list is fairly comprehensive, Matt. I can think of a few things, like 'smart appliances', but those are a subset of having your power completely turned off.

Anything that is or can be networked will be subject to remote control by these hegemons, which is getting to be just about everything more complicated than a screwdriver.

Once they do away with paper money and make barter illegal, with everyone using their new 'digital currency', you can add food to the list.

101 posted on 03/09/2022 6:04:50 AM PST by Joe Brower ("Might we not live in a nobler dream than this?" -- John Ruskin)
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To: V_TWIN

Same thing you do when your gas car is empty.


102 posted on 03/09/2022 6:05:25 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: dennisw

That and 0.0000000001 Bitcoin will buy you a cup of coffee.

Until they outlaw and shut down crypto.


103 posted on 03/09/2022 6:06:11 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

You are right about all the potential shutdowns of electrical cars, phones and more. But the same can be done to shut down any car in the future. Just put the right circuits into the onboard computer and get a way for the WEF-Uncle Klaus types to communicate with it.

UNCLE KLAUS — HE KNOWS WHAT’S GOOD FOR YOU! Better than you know what’s good for you!


104 posted on 03/09/2022 6:08:07 AM PST by dennisw
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To: Baldwin77

Right. My guess is they will use tax credits. We will still end up paying for it. That is those of us that pay taxes.


105 posted on 03/09/2022 6:08:25 AM PST by plain talk
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To: Red Badger

1986 accident
In West Germany, in 1986, an accident involved a jammed pebble that was damaged by the reactor operators when they were attempting to dislodge it from a feeder tube (see THTR-300 section). This accident released radiation into the surrounding area, and probably was one reason for the shutdown of the research program by the West German government.[citation needed]

2008 report
In 2008, a report[13][14] about safety aspects of the AVR reactor in Germany and some general features of pebble-bed reactors have drawn attention


106 posted on 03/09/2022 6:09:33 AM PST by Vision (Elections are one day. Reject "Chicago" vote harvesting. Election Reform Now. Obama is an evildoerr.)
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To: Tell It Right; dennisw; Joe Brower

No, E distro is not the same as liquid fuel distro. Posting these questions again so folks don’t have to go back:

How does it work out for EVs when they are stranded on highways during blizzards or ice storms, and the heating function eats up the battery? Or just any gridlock in very cold weather? It sucks.

Now, imagine all 100 or more stuck cars are EVs, and their passengers can’t share the heat inside the ICE cars around them, as happened this winter in Virginia on I-95.

Or imagine future gridlock of mostly EVs during a hurricane evacuation etc, when they run out en masse and can’t be recharged. ICE cars can be rapidly refueled from Jerry cans. How do you get electricity to 100s of stuck EVs in the middle of miles of gridlock? This is not hypothetical, it happened in VA this winter and it was a problem with only 2% EVs.

What happens when it’s 90% EVs?
Sincere question.


107 posted on 03/09/2022 6:11:26 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Joe Brower

Well then it’s time to take advantage of no one enforcing shoplifting laws in some cities and dress up like Antifa.


108 posted on 03/09/2022 6:11:29 AM PST by Morpheus2009 (If you want me to be afraid, then be consistent in your logic, standards, and your lies!s)
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To: Morpheus2009

Hi.

Was there a power consumption vs power produced calculation in the article?

I must have missed it.

5.56mm


109 posted on 03/09/2022 6:11:49 AM PST by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho need to go.)
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To: Vision

damaged by the reactor operators ................. Not unlike Chernobyl, Just not as bad...........


110 posted on 03/09/2022 6:11:59 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger
Ridiculous.
111 posted on 03/09/2022 6:12:47 AM PST by Vision (Elections are one day. Reject "Chicago" vote harvesting. Election Reform Now. Obama is an evildoerr.)
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To: Morpheus2009

This article is bunk…

The existing power generation and delivery grid cannot produce and deliver enough electricity to power every vehicle on the road.

Could it? Sure with a lot of spending on new power plants and infrastructure, but it is nowhere near capable of doing it today


112 posted on 03/09/2022 6:12:59 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: dennisw

Bluetooth.

https://berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue/2013-08-09/article/41312

On the Strange Death
of Michael Hastings:
Was the Reporter Car-Hacked or Bombed?

From Car-jacking to Car-hacking

In the aftermath of Hasting’s bizarre death — caught inside his burning Mercedes C250 shortly after the vehicle was videotaped speeding past a red light a Los Angeles street at 4 AM — conspiracy theories began to proliferate: Hastings was killed by a US drone strike; Hastings was killed by an onboard bomb; Hastings was the victim of a cybernetic “car-hacking.”

Wait, what was that last one again?

In a currently running TV ad, former football star Peyton Manning is shown tooling down the road in a new Buick. “I know what if feels like to be blindsided,” he grins. Manning then proceeds to praise his ride for the latest computerized gizmos designed to keep him safe by raising warnings and overriding any move of the driver’s part that onboard computers deem a hazard to road safety.

Buick is one of several vehicles equipped with rear-view sensors to warn drivers of unseen traffic or obstacles approaching from the rear. New safety features also take over the wheel from tired drivers if they start to drift into oncoming lanes. And some vehicles can also park themselves.

But can these autonomous systems fail? Or worse, could they be compromised by, say, a carful of teenage pranksters, road-rage-prone adults or . . . government assassins?

There is, in fact, ample evidence that these systems can and do fail. These “modern conveniences” can quickly turn your cyber-driving experience from an interlude with a helpful onboard guide to a face-off with an invisible evil force — the difference between a “Siri” and a “Hal.”

The ultimate expression of the hands-free motoring experience can be seen in the “driverless” Google automobile. But what would it mean if Googlemobiles — typically touted as a major advance in assuring highway safety — could be hacked?

The problems are already starting to surface. In late June, the National Highway Safety Administration reported it was investigating 22 complaints that 2007-2008 Honda Odyssey minivans had been “unexpected breaking . . . without the driver pressing the pedal.”

In a 2010 article in Veterans Today, former Marine Gordon Duff described an assassination technique known as “Boston Brakes,” whereby “drive by wire” cars — like the Mercedes Benz — can be remotely steered to simulate a driver-caused accident.

Former US National Coordinator for Security, Infrastructure Protection, and Counter-terrorism Richard Clarke has also confirmed the existence of “drive by wire” attacks. Speaking to the Huffington Post following news of the Hastings’ bizarre death, Clarke agreed that a single-vehicle crash is “consistent with a car cyber attack. There is reason to believe that intelligence agencies for major powers — including the United States — know how to remotely seize control of a car.” Clarke added: “You can do some really highly destructive things now, through hacking a car, and it’s not that hard.”

A Scholarly Demonstration of the Car-hacking Scenario

A sophisticated “car-hacking” plot is one of the odder theories gaining traction in Internet chat rooms. The theory posits that Hastings’ Mercedes may have been “hacked” — its braking, acceleration and steering taken over by “outside forces” — and driven to destruction.

“Car-hacking” is not science fiction: it is established fact. Electronic controls have been infiltrating modern automobiles since the 1970s. Today, a luxury automobile may have 100 MB of binary code onboard, feeding anywhere from 50-70 Electronic Control Units (ECUs).

In addition to internal ECUs that monitor engine and driving performance, there now are ECUs that communicate with the world beyond the dashboard. These wi-fi enabled “telemetric” systems not only broadcast information to outside receivers, they also respond to instructions beamed in from neighborhood and satellite communication systems. Think OnStar; think Bluetooth.

In 2010, researchers at the University of Washington and the University of California at San Diego published a shocking piece of research describing how they had managed to override the safety features on two off-the-lot 2009 automobiles. The report, “Experimental Security Analysis of a Modern Automobile,” documented an astonishing outcome:

“We have demonstrated the ability to systematically control a wide array of components including engine, brakes, heating and cooling, lights, instrument panel, radio, locks, and so on. Combining these, we have been able to mount attacks that represent potentially significant threats to personal safety.

“For example, we are able to forcibly and completely disengage the brakes while driving, making it difficult for the driver to stop. Conversely, we are able to forcibly activate the brakes, lurching the driver forward and causing the car to stop suddenly.”

There are now more than 250 million passenger vehicles in the US and most of them are computer controlled to some extent. According to the researchers, our newest autos are “pervasively computerized.” And, they warn, the risk of “car-hacking” is about to become much worse because Detroit is planning to introduce vehicle-to-infrastructure and vehicle-to-vehicle enhancements in the near future. The ability of one vehicle to “communicate” with another will “only broaden the attack surface further.”

The research paper explains that there are two ways to seize control of a vehicle’s computer systems — by direct physical interference or by indirect interference. In the first instance, “a mechanic, a valet, a person who rents a car, an ex-friend, a disgruntled family member, or the car owner can, with even momentary access to the vehicle, insert a malicious component into a car’s internal network via the ubiquitous OBD-II port (typically under the dash).”

The other approach is to rely on “numerous wireless interfaces” — some cars have five or more digital radio interfaces that accept outside commands, “some over only a short range and others over an indefinite distance.”
[Much more at link]


113 posted on 03/09/2022 6:17:50 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: luckystarmom

A significant amount of new construction is multi-family units. These usually don’t have assigned parking. The infrastructure changes necessary to outfit every space with a charger must be astronomical.

It’s expensive in a single family home and that has nearby power to draw from.

Better yet are the city dwellers who park on the street, often blocks away from their actual home. Good luck with that one.

It always amazes me to see these sanctimonious prigs sitting cramped up in their cute little electric car doing nothing waiting for a charge.

I was in Orlando last week. A family of four were packed in their Tesla enjoying the 90 degree heat and wasting vacation time. How stupid.


114 posted on 03/09/2022 6:17:54 AM PST by cyclotic (I won't give up my FREEDOM for your FEAR. Oh Canada, we stand on guard for thee.)
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To: Travis McGee

The biggest attraction of bitcoin (and similar) and what jacks up its price is non-reported ownership and non-reported trading. If, when the Feds come in guns a-blazing and force all bitcoin transactions to be reported. This will mean capital gains taxes will have to be paid. Guns ablazing due to Russia Russia Russia!!! or something similar for national security. Forced Covid vaccinations went down well enough for “National Security”... For the health of us all. As in “We are all in this together”

When crypto owners must report capital gains for Federale taxation. Then bitcoin, Ethereum etc lose half their value


115 posted on 03/09/2022 6:19:56 AM PST by dennisw
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To: Travis McGee
Look, I'm with you on hating the Dims forcing everyone into EV's. I just want people on our side to argue the facts correctly.

The EV I'm thinking about getting (because it works for me with my large solar system with me trying the best I can to wean myself off of dependency on the gubment, including their energy policies) has a power export. Of course, this is a truck, so it's got tons of power outlets to work power tools on a job site or if you go camping, etc. It basically can spit out up to 9.6 kW at a time powering outlets. If charging another F-150 Lightning we're talking about 5 miles for 20 minutes' worth of charge (at that rate). If charging an EV car (read: more efficient in miles per kWh) you get more miles per charging minute.

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2022-ford-f-150-powerboost-lightning-ev-charge-mobile-power-cable/

116 posted on 03/09/2022 6:20:36 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Morpheus2009

where do these idiots think electricity comes from? What about mass power outage due to a hurricane or other disaster? I read that someone is designing their electric trucks to be used as a generator - what happens with the truck needs to be recharged?


117 posted on 03/09/2022 6:21:03 AM PST by Chickenhawk Warmonger (I would give my right arm for a mean tweet right now)
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To: Morpheus2009

Just heard that gasoline is $10 a gallon in Australia...


118 posted on 03/09/2022 6:24:35 AM PST by Does so (Americans had no desire for war between 1939 and 1941. Rheinland? Sometimes War Finds YOU!)
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To: Morpheus2009

If true, why tell people to do laundry in the off hours?


119 posted on 03/09/2022 6:28:11 AM PST by roving
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To: Morpheus2009

I would buy an electric car if the price was right but they’re way too expensive.

Since I retired almost all my driving are round trips under 50 miles or so, give or take aa few miles.

However, the price! the cheapest ones are ugly, tiny shoe boxes and even so are priced as much as a regular F-150, which is much more useful, and what I currently drive.

If a manufacturer here would just simply convert a standard sedan into all electric without all the bells and whistles and sold them cheaply enough it would be the Model T of our times.

Air conditioning is a must (I live in Alabama), but beyond that, a nice sound system can still be installed without charging and arm and a leg. Nothing much else needed. I’m even fine with rolling up windows with a handle.


120 posted on 03/09/2022 6:28:36 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (Rush, we're missing your take on all of this!)
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