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New York Lawmakers Propose Ammunition Tax of Up to 5 Cents Per Round
Field and Stream ^ | 3/8/2022 | Phil Bourjaily

Posted on 03/08/2022 8:43:42 AM PST by Right Wing Vegan

Two New York state lawmakers have proposed an ammunition excise tax of .02 to .05 per round. If passed, the bill would make New York the only state in the nation to enforce a tax on ammo. Revenue from the measure, introduced by state Sen. Andrew Gounardes (D-Brooklyn) and Assemblywoman Pat Fahy (D-Albany) would pay for the newly created research fund dedicated to studying gun violence under the state Department of Health and the State University of New York.

The state has seen a sharp increase in violent crimes, especially in New York City, which officials blame in part on the Covid-19 pandemic. Under the bill, projectiles that measure .22 caliber or less will be taxed at a rate of $.02 per round while all other ammunition would be taxed at $.05 per round. “As we seek to address New York’s rise in gun violence, it’s incumbent on us as legislators to identify fact-based approaches that will save lives and bring peace to our communities,” Gounardes told Spectrum News 1. “By taxing ammunition, we are fairly funding research that will help us build smart and effective policies.”

Many gun owners in New York see the tax much differently. Assemblyman Mark Walczyk (R,C,I-Watertown) believes the bill will only punish law-abiding citizens. “Everyone knows the majority of gun crime is committed with illegally-obtained weapons and ammunition, not by law-abiding gun owners,” he told Newzjunky.com. “I can’t imagine a single murderer deciding not to pull the trigger because the price per round went up. But we all know, ammo is becoming scarce and this attempt at driving up prices is a direct attack on the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution.”

Joe Johnson, manager of Armageddon Arsenal Supply in LeRay, New York, says the tax would sharply increase the price of some ammunition, such as .22 rimfire. “Adding 2 cents to something that’s only 2.7 cents, you literally just about doubled your cost,” he told WWNY TV News.

Currently, no other state taxes ammunition. Seattle, Washington and Cook County, Illinois, do impose a similar tax to the proposed New York tax. From 1937 until its repeal in 2019, Tennessee required boxes of ammunition to bear a .10 stamp, with proceeds going directly into the state’s Wildlife Resources Fund.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: ammo; banglist; newyork; subjectsofnewyork; taxes
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1 posted on 03/08/2022 8:43:42 AM PST by Right Wing Vegan
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To: Right Wing Vegan

Tax anything in sight.


2 posted on 03/08/2022 8:45:34 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: PROCON

The power to tax is the power to destroy.


3 posted on 03/08/2022 8:45:37 AM PST by Joe Brower ("Might we not live in a nobler dream than this?" -- John Ruskin)
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To: Right Wing Vegan

I’ll go out of state.


4 posted on 03/08/2022 8:46:22 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Right Wing Vegan

I foresee a lively trade in bootleg ammo from adjoining states.


5 posted on 03/08/2022 8:47:09 AM PST by technically right
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To: Right Wing Vegan

Liberals rightly got all upset over poll taxes because poll taxes restricted the right to vote. Yet they are all for ammo taxes that restrict the 2A right to keep and bear arms.

Liberals sure have an unusual way of looking at things.


6 posted on 03/08/2022 8:47:42 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Right Wing Vegan

What part of “shall make NO LAW!” do they not understand?...............


7 posted on 03/08/2022 8:48:29 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Right Wing Vegan

Didn’t SCOTUS previously find that this was unconstitutional?


8 posted on 03/08/2022 8:49:30 AM PST by NicoDon
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To: Right Wing Vegan

They STEAL the guns-—Who thinks they BUY the ammo?????


9 posted on 03/08/2022 8:50:31 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Right Wing Vegan

Tax every word that comes out of a NY politician’s mouth.

It’s no more an infringement on free speech than a tax on ammo is an infringement on the right to bear arms.


10 posted on 03/08/2022 8:50:45 AM PST by DannyTN (1)
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To: Red Badger

The entire thing.


11 posted on 03/08/2022 8:50:50 AM PST by Dutch Boy (The only thing worse than having something taken from you is to have it returned broken. )
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To: Right Wing Vegan
Gounardes told Spectrum News 1. “By taxing ammunition, we are fairly funding research that will help us build smart and effective policies.”

These people are criminals.

12 posted on 03/08/2022 8:51:06 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: technically right

People already go out of state to buy cigarettes. So they can pick up a little bit of ammo at the same time.


13 posted on 03/08/2022 8:51:06 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: Right Wing Vegan

Its time for people to start learning to reload. Not that hard....


14 posted on 03/08/2022 8:51:40 AM PST by cdnerds (Vapingunderground)
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To: Right Wing Vegan
Adding 2 cents to something that’s only 2.7 cents, you literally just about doubled your cost,” he told WWNY TV News.

I'd like to know where Joe Johnson is getting 22LR for 9 cents a round.

15 posted on 03/08/2022 8:52:12 AM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: 1Old Pro

I’ll go out of state.


They’ll make that a crime. I believe California prohibits buying ammo out of state. When you enter Illinois there are signs warning that bringing in untaxed cigarettes is illegal. They call it ‘butt legging’. You don’t want to be known as a ‘bullet legger’ do you?

And to be effective, reloading will also have to be against the law.


16 posted on 03/08/2022 8:56:22 AM PST by hanamizu
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To: Right Wing Vegan

Targeting the good guys. Their end goal is to take guns from non-violent citizens while leaving them in the hands of violent criminals.


17 posted on 03/08/2022 8:57:36 AM PST by I want the USA back (Government is to be feared much more than the chicom virus.)
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To: Right Wing Vegan
would pay for the newly created research fund dedicated to studying gun violence under the state Department of Health and the State University of New York.

"We'll let them pay for the rope that we use to hang them with."
18 posted on 03/08/2022 9:02:20 AM PST by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: Right Wing Vegan
It will hamper practice and good marksmanship more than it will promote safety.

19 posted on 03/08/2022 9:03:45 AM PST by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: NicoDon
Didn’t SCOTUS previously find that this was unconstitutional?

No, they upheld the practice. SCOTUS ruled long ago that the NFA tax on short barreled rifles, short barreled shotguns, and fully automatic machine guns was constitutional.

Plus there are already federal taxes on ammunition, part of the Pittman-Robertson Act that raises revenue for land conservation.

This tax would pass constitutional muster because of both of the above.

20 posted on 03/08/2022 9:03:48 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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