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Putin Offers 4 Conditions For Peace…
Citizens Free Press ^ | 03/08/22 | Kane

Posted on 03/08/2022 6:22:40 AM PST by Enlightened1

Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov say Russia will halt military action if Kiev meets four conditions.

 

In an interview on Monday, Peskov said Moscow could “end war immediately” if Ukraine agreed to sign a neutrality agreement that would bar it from entering NATO, recognized Crimea as Russian, recognized the regions of Luhansk and Donetsk as independent, and ceased all military action.

Russia claims it will stop the war immediately if Ukraine agrees to: - cease military action - change constitution to enshrine neutrality - recognize Crimea as Russian territory - recognize the Russian-controlled areas of Donetsk and Luhansk as independent states

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1500832884004831232


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: peace; putin; russia; seebreakingnews; ukraine
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

> Agree to hold plebiscite in defined region of disputed territories, and to abide by results. <

Ukraine won’t like that, but it might happen anyway.

It’s a side point, but the United States is all for self-determination...except for within its own borders. There’d be hell to pay should any state decide try to leave the Union, even if a large majority of its voters decided to do so.

(We of course saw that back in 1861.)


21 posted on 03/08/2022 6:48:31 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Too late. They had this plan for 8 years and dragged on it.


22 posted on 03/08/2022 6:49:24 AM PST by NorseViking
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To: marktwain
The Russian terms do not say anything about leaving Ukraine. It gives the Russian forces time to resupply and refuel.

Right. And the next time they choose to invade, they'll be invaded a smaller, weaker Ukraine and will have learned from their own mistakes.

Russia's own actions have made a promise of Ukrainian neutrality a non-starter.

23 posted on 03/08/2022 6:49:33 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( .)
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To: discostu
How about Putin stop being a bully, stop defining himself in opposition to the West, and get the hell out of a country that’s none of his business.

In 2014 Crimea voted in a referendum for independence and it passed with 95%. Donetsk and Lugansk voted for independence through military force. They don't want to be part of Ukraine either.

Are they not entitled to freedom?

We bombed Serbia so that Kosovo could achieve the same goals as these people are asking for.

The Kremlin's demands are perfectly reasonable. Zelenski should accept them and end the bloodshed and the risk of world-wide escalation (except his Western puppet masters won't let him).

24 posted on 03/08/2022 6:56:41 AM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: Drew68

The minute you invade your demands become unreasonable.


25 posted on 03/08/2022 7:00:49 AM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
2) Agree to hold plebiscite in defined region of disputed territories, and to abide by results. Who is eligible to vote would have to be defined up front.

Crimea held a referendum for independence from Ukraine in 2014. It passed by 95%.

If anyone has any doubts about how the referendum would turn out in the Donbas, they only need to look at this to have their questions answered.


26 posted on 03/08/2022 7:01:19 AM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: discostu

Well, it says even more that the Ukes had years of obvious signs this could happen yet didn’t bother fortifying their own defense capabilities to the maximum.

If they really are putting up the fight the media says, imagine what they could have done with even a years or two in preparation.

US needs to extricate itself from Nato yesterday and let Europe fight it’s own wars this century.


27 posted on 03/08/2022 7:05:03 AM PST by Manuel OKelley
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To: CarolinaReaganFan

yep


28 posted on 03/08/2022 7:05:19 AM PST by Manuel OKelley
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To: Leaning Right
what other choice does Ukraine have?

Mass casualties until they agree.

29 posted on 03/08/2022 7:07:21 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Manuel OKelley

Who says they weren’t? It’s not a big country. What are they’re “maximum” defenses supposed to be?


30 posted on 03/08/2022 7:11:27 AM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: Drew68
The issue will be defining the boundaries of the specific areas in which the plebiscites would be held. And if pro-Russian sentiment is enough, then both sides abide by that as ending the dispute permanently.

And Ukraine gets the right to join NATO. That's a face-saving result for both sides that has real potential as a permanent solution.

I'd point out that Ukraine already, as a matter of policy, is on record as supporting elections in the Donbas under the Steinmeier Formula. So it is a matter of ironing out the details, and perhaps some compromise regarding the processes could be reached.

31 posted on 03/08/2022 7:14:40 AM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( .)
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To: Leaning Right

Putin is Stalin-2.
[BTW, Stalin is the pseudonym for Joseph Dzhugashvili from a poor Georgian family. He had used 30-odd last names during his life until January 1913. Dzhugashvili became ‘Stalin’, signing as author of “Marxism and the National Question”.]

Previously President Vladimir Putin had privately threatened to invade Poland, Romania and the Baltic States, according to a record of a conversation with his ex-Ukrainian counterpart.
“If I wanted, in two days I could have Russian troops not only in Kiev, but also in Riga, Vilnius, Tallinn, Warsaw and Bucharest,” Mr. Putin. And I believe his intention is first to :neuter” nations keeping them in compliance to his will.
Then, re-establish old USSR borders.

Putin is now threatening Poland and Lithuania.


32 posted on 03/08/2022 7:14:45 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

There you go, being reasonable again.

No way anybody accepts that even if you had the place or power to offer it.


33 posted on 03/08/2022 7:15:16 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: discostu

“The minute you invade your demands become unreasonable.”

Bingo!


34 posted on 03/08/2022 7:15:24 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Enlightened1

At this point it may be best just to agree to save innocent lives and infrastructure. You won’t have to actually agree because all agreements and political lingo are based on deceit and lies. Just say you agree, regroup and fight another day.


35 posted on 03/08/2022 7:16:26 AM PST by CodeJockey (If you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes journalism. )
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To: Little Pig

There are no “open” elections in Crimea, Lukhansk, Donbass.
There were none in 2014 & there will not be now.


36 posted on 03/08/2022 7:17:24 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: escapefromboston

“ Puppet state of Ukraine should have agreed with this before getting invaded.”

Who said they are agreeing with this now ?


37 posted on 03/08/2022 7:22:08 AM PST by libh8er
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Really not that simple. Russia had totally manipulated & invalidated previous election for Donbas & Crimea in 2014.


38 posted on 03/08/2022 7:22:36 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: Drew68

“ Are they not entitled to freedom?”

So if California wants to break away we should let them ? (Although part of me says yes)


39 posted on 03/08/2022 7:27:21 AM PST by libh8er
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To: Little Pig

“I think the Ukraine response should be agree to not join *any* bloc...”

Putin might go for that. But he has reason not to trust Ukraine and the West to follow that agreement. From what I have been finding out, NATO agreed not to include the former Warsaw Pact nations in return for Russia keeping out of western Europe. Putin’s incursions in Crimea, Georgia, and Ukraine have been in response to NATO inclusion of Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania and NATO courting of Ukraine and Georgia.


40 posted on 03/08/2022 7:31:17 AM PST by spaced
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