Putin has grown weary of raping a tiger.
Russia promised it would not invade Ukraine if they gave over their nuclear weapons
If real, Take it then arm to the teeth. Russia defacto already controlled those regions. This is a Putin surrender and as such, should be suspect as real. And proof Russia realizes this is a war they’ll never win.
- - Must recognize that Puke-tin is their one and only god.
- - Must recognize that they MUST DO AS their masters and their god says.
- - Must give 75% of their yearly grain harvest (the Ukarine is the breadbasket of Europe and most of the world) to their god and masters.
- - Must deny all contact with the EU and America and pledge their lives and loyalty to their masters and god AND to Red China. No arguments. No nothing, OR ELSE.
Now sign on the line in blood and out of fear that your god and master will nuke you if you don't follow the rules of your god and masters.
These were reasonable demands...BEFORE Pootie invaded. Now, forget it.
How many here believe the propaganda that Ukraine is doing great?
Any agreement made under duress isn’t valid.
Bottom line is there needs to be no more Russia.
Violates the Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances that we signed, with the Russians and the Ukes. So the Ukes gave up their nukes, and we reneged on the security assurances.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts
Putin is putting forward the minimum he will accept, the sanctions would cripple the Russian economy. But ultimately the US is the puppet master for Ukraine and will make any decisions.
I’ve seen several top financial experts like Zoltran say imposition of these sanctions was poorly thought out (thanks Biden) and would rebound terribly for the West, sending the US into a deep recession and possibly collapsing the Euro as a currency and sending Europe into an economic depression. It’s a high stakes game for everybody, and how it plays out will depend on how China reacts and to a lessor extent India. Germany too will have a major voice and once they realize the economic costs will most likely push for a resolution.
Why not if t will end the war. Apparently agreements are worthless anyway.
prayers for ukranians
if true,it’s not unreasonable
Nuts!
Just do what Putin would do.
Agree to everything, knowing it’s all a lie.
UKRAINE:
1. Ukraine could join the EU while affirming that it won’t join NATO.
2. Ukraine can recognize Crimea as an independent country that can have the associations it wants to with Russia and Ukraine.
3. The separatist regions can be a matter for negotiation after the invasion is over.
4. Ukraine should officially oppose all financial and other sanctions that were imposed on Russia because of the invasion.
RUSSIA:
1. Russia needs to withdraw all forces from Ukraine.
2. Russia needs to recognize Ukraine’s sovereignty in perpetuity.
3. Russia needs to sign a treaty affirming that specific destructive weaponry will not be in Crimea or in the separatist regions.
4. Russia needs to pay Ukraine for the damage done by the invasion.
Russia has no right to demand anything. The only action it has the right to do is stop the attack, pay retributions to the survivors, pay trillions to rebuild Ukraine, eliminate its nuclear weapons, and for Putin to be kicked out of office.
Pretty much what I expected. The Ukraine was supposed to be a neutral territory between Russia and the EU countries.
Christo Grozev
@christogrozev
Two persons close to the Russia-Ukraine negotiations (including back channel talks) tell me Russia proposed (1) Zelensky remains pro forma president but Russia appoints Boiko as PM, (2) Ukraine recognizes L/DNR and Crimea, (3) No NATO. Ze told them emphatically no.
7:36 AM · Mar 7, 2022·Twitter for Android
https://twitter.com/christogrozev/status/1500812687009267712?cxt=HHwWgICyuf3L-tMpAAAA
I always figured these 3 objectives were his end game