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With the word ‘Nazi’ tossed around promiscuously, let’s understand the term
American Thinker ^ | 03/05/2022 | Andrea Widburg

Posted on 03/05/2022 7:27:49 AM PST by SeekAndFind

The word “Nazi” is suddenly everywhere. This isn’t the modern habit of calling everyone we don’t like a “Nazi.” Instead, because of events in Ukraine, the word is showing up in the news, where it has real-world ramifications.

During WWII, the Germans occupied Ukraine and battled their way across the Western half of the USSR. In Ukraine, while Ukrainian citizens suffered greatly at Nazi hands, no Jew forgets that the Ukrainians enthusiastically joined in the Holocaust. At Babyn Yar, where almost 34,000 Jews were shot to death over a couple of days, it was the Ukrainians who pulled the triggers.

Meanwhile, although Russia and Germany were once allies thanks to the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, Hitler reneged on that agreement, probably to have access to Soviet oil supplies. The Germans invaded Russia leading to some of the bloodiest battles of WWII.

In both countries—Russia and Ukraine (which was then part of the Soviet Union)—the Nazi era seared itself so deeply into the respective countries’ psyches that it’s scarcely surprising that the word “Nazi,” and accusations based upon that word, instantly appeared once Russia invaded Ukraine.

Here’s just a small sample of headlines from the past week:

* What Putin’s Nazi Talk Reveals About His Plans for Ukraine

* How the memory of Nazi atrocities has come to play a role in Russia's war.

* Kyiv was surrounded in 1941 as the Nazis closed in. The Russian army defended the city.

* The Texan who went viral for fighting alongside Russia-backed forces said he's trying to 'liberate' Ukraine from 'Nazis'

* Destroying the memory of what the Nazis did to us at Babyn Yar is de-Nazification.

* Jewish Ukrainians gear up for fierce Russia fight, alongside the ‘neo-Nazis’ they say Putin is lying about.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: fascism; nazi; nazism; ukrainiannazis
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Many people have no idea what is meant by the word “Nazi.” The whole thing is especially complicated because the political notions of left wing and right wing, which infuse any conversation about “Nazis,” have different meanings in America and Europe.

For starters, continental Europe has never known liberty like America’s constitutional liberty, which centers the government around the individual, not the state. The origin of the terms “left wing” and “right wing” highlight this point.

1 posted on 03/05/2022 7:27:49 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/flashback-times-liberals-called-george-w-bush-nazi

As it is Written, there is nothing new under the sun.


2 posted on 03/05/2022 7:32:04 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: SeekAndFind

“NAZI” is what you call political opponents.


3 posted on 03/05/2022 7:35:05 AM PST by Roccus (First we beat the Nazis........Then we defeated the Soviets....... Now, we are them.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Rats love socialism. The nazis were socialists. Any more questions?


4 posted on 03/05/2022 7:36:09 AM PST by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.p)
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To: Just mythoughts

Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky is Jewish and l his grandfather fought the German Nazis during WWII. Perhaps it is known that Zelensky lost ancestral relatives at the hands of the Nazis in concentration camps.

Yes, Ukraine, like much of the traditional Russian empire, has hosted significant anti-Semitism.

However, this past *is not the dominant situation today*, as the president and prime minister are both Jewish.

The Ukrainians have tasted freedom since the breakup of the Soviet empire in 1990s and despite corruption do not want to return to totalitarian control. Further, they have indicated through their resistance that they do not want to be Russian.


5 posted on 03/05/2022 7:38:24 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s true. The left refers to the European scale to put fascism on the American right. Best I can tell the European scale is Fascism on the Right and Communism on the left. America as founded isn’t even on that scale.

I think of it like taking the European scale, rotating it 90 deg (so the line is vertical) then drawing a line perpendicular out to the right. The new scale is % government control, with the right being 0% and the left being 100%. This is the American scale. I’m on the right. Hitler would be far to the left.

That’s the way I think of it anyways.


6 posted on 03/05/2022 7:39:07 AM PST by Sarcazmo
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To: HighSierra5

NAT (national) ZI (Socialist) at that, too.


7 posted on 03/05/2022 7:40:34 AM PST by knarf (?<p>Little kids grow up to be adults that get into powerful positions and act out their thoughts.<pg)
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It means American Democrat


8 posted on 03/05/2022 7:44:35 AM PST by dsrtsage ( Complexity is just simple lacking imagination)
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To: HighSierra5
He's still in office


9 posted on 03/05/2022 7:44:57 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: SeekAndFind
For starters, continental Europe has never known liberty like America’s constitutional liberty, which centers the government around the individual, not the state. The origin of the terms “left wing” and “right wing” highlight this point

We don't need no "right wing" / "left wing".... we gotst Red state / Blue state.

😤


10 posted on 03/05/2022 7:48:00 AM PST by Roccus (First we beat the Nazis........Then we defeated the Soviets....... Now, we are them.)
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Obama is a National Socialist
www.freerepublic.com ^ | October 27, 2008 | Kevmo

Posted on Monday, October 27, 2008 4:19:47 PM by Kevmo
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2116981/posts


11 posted on 03/05/2022 7:50:37 AM PST by Kevmo (Not a Putin fan myself, I only wish for a president who loves our country as much as Putin loves his)
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To: SeekAndFind
Nazi was the social democrat party like the current demonicrat party.
12 posted on 03/05/2022 7:52:06 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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My uncle of German and Scottish linage, was dirt poor and obviously a nobody.. landed on one of the beaches of Normandy .. took shrapnel to his head.. the doctors put in a metal plate to keep his brain in tact, and he was then sent back into battle.. my uncle had not one thing to do with WWI that seeded the mad Adolp to see occultist delusions of supremacy….

It has been our political oligarchs that played like harlots with Ukrainian oligarchs that seeded this mess.. Every time I hear the word Ukraine Hunter and that toad Vinman come to mind..

Now lest any of the multitude of posters who have no brains but to parrot the accusation of being a Vlad supporter/sympathizer…. My father 14 years younger than his brother ‘serving’ the powers that be, was plucked up and shipped off to Stalin's Korean War.. History teaches do not poke the Russian bear unprepared. Most of my life, until Jezebel was denied her entitlement of first woman president of the US, liberal were more in alliance with the soviets than for US..

Mass confusion has covered the globe and the majority have been scorpion bit and their minds and spines are turned to mush.

13 posted on 03/05/2022 8:00:05 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: SeekAndFind

thats a lot of neocon propaganda.
it is appropriate to take out the neo-nazi asov brigade.
i hope the bloodshed ends soon but neocons won’t let it.
danzig mapper shows terrain control over the last 8 days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mq4f42qOuo


14 posted on 03/05/2022 8:05:09 AM PST by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: Sarcazmo

yes the best way to compare the “ism”s is percentage of govt control


15 posted on 03/05/2022 8:05:42 AM PST by joshua c (Dump the LEFT. Cable tv, Big tech, national name brands)
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To: CarolinaReaganFan

If that’s all Putin did, take out the Azov Brigade, that’s one thing.

But it’s like when Hitler invaded Poland and it was clear he wanted more than just Danzig and the Corridor.


16 posted on 03/05/2022 8:06:52 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Seems it is used with the same promiscuity and understanding as racist.


17 posted on 03/05/2022 8:07:31 AM PST by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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To: SeekAndFind
Never forget that Ukraine suffered is own holocaust at the hands of the Russians under Stalin in the Holodomor when the communists starved 7,000,000 Ukrainians to death. Good reason for many of them to have supported the Germans in WW II.
18 posted on 03/05/2022 8:13:29 AM PST by libstripper
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To: SeekAndFind

How do you think this Ukraine war ends?

My guess is Putin will occupy only the access areas to Black Sea, and the war will end when Zelensky is no longer in power.


19 posted on 03/05/2022 8:16:02 AM PST by entropy12
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To: CarolinaReaganFan
Thanks for this post.

Think of all the people that Klaus Schwab and his Great Reset TechnoDicktaters are getting killed on both sides of this...

20 posted on 03/05/2022 8:19:02 AM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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