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How Many Trillions Will America Borrow to Fund the New Central European Arms Race?
3/5/22 | Vanity

Posted on 03/05/2022 5:30:06 AM PST by hardspunned

After twenty years of brutalizing the Middle East to make it profitable for Raytheon, we have finally stopped burning our borrowed trillions in Iraq and Afghanistan. After the fall of the Warsaw Pact, the world reaped a peace dividend. No longer were we eyeball to eyeball, armed to the gills, staring down the Russians. We and the Russians had a buffer of independent, NATO leaning nations between us. Military expenditures in Europe declined. The US continued to cover the shortfalls in spending of the European free loaders, Cold War or not, during this period. Then NATO began its massive expansion east. To date, we have tripled the number of countries in Europe whose militaries are being being sustained by the billions borrowed by the American taxpayer. If Russia is stopped, their reaction will most definitely be an arms building frenzy to try to rectify its military shortcomings. And what will NATO’s reaction be? We’ve lived through 50 years of this before. I don’t have to explain where this goes. What if Ukraine becomes a NATO member? No longer will there be a buffer between NATO and Russia. Once again we are back to a 1400 mile long Berlin Wall type, eyeball to eyeball border. Ronald Reagan spent the Warsaw Pact under the table. Are we, the American taxpayers, ready to borrow the Russians under the table? Of course, NATO’s meddling in Ukraine could force the opposite outcome. Russia could double its spending on defense or more. Russia and China have an assumed new Ribbentrop Molotov type deal to mutually support each other’s naked aggressions already. Our shortsighted policy will force Russia into a very unequal alliance with Beijing (our true existential threat). The Chinese would have Moscow’s ear when anti NATO moves or defense is planned. NATO countries built the their highway and rail systems with rapid movement of military reserves eastward in mind. NATO planned, implemented and trained on how to say, put those 350 new Polish M1 tanks on Russia’s border, 300 miles from Moscow, in a day. The Russians must build up to counter the threat posed by all NATO reserves being rapidly deployed to the NATO Russian border. They will most definitely immediately build a whole new class of intermediate range and theater nukes. That is how Reagan and Thatcher successfully reacted to a similar imbalance 40 years ago. With the West being whipped into a jingoistic fever by the over the top Ukrainian disinformation, perhaps we should step back and decide if we really want to start the Cold War over again to keep Ukraine in Biden’s and the DC Deep State’s back pocket.


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Do we really want to start this all over again? Every dime we spent subsidizing the burgeoning (revanchist from the Russian perspective) NATO alliance will be borrowed. NATO is a, now proven, catastrophically destabilizing alliance that should have been disbanded 20 years ago.
1 posted on 03/05/2022 5:30:06 AM PST by hardspunned
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To: hardspunned

If we’re selling and producing ing the weapns I wouldn’t mind as much as it would stay in the country.

Then we would own Ukraine financially.

But these ideas of mine come from another age I suppose.


2 posted on 03/05/2022 5:34:21 AM PST by Bayard
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Since feral givernment has a long history of foreign entanglements, and a more recent history of funding our enemies war machines (pallets of billions of dollars of cash, needing to buy Russian oil, etc) ... it would be faster to hire the Iranians to buy back many of the weapons left to our enemies in Afghanistan and transport them to Xiden’s friends in the Ukraine. Loser Vindeman, who considered becoming Ukraine’s defense minister while he was schlepping his way in the US military, should be flown to Ukraine and be in charge of coordinating the final exchanges of cash for weapons program.


3 posted on 03/05/2022 5:39:18 AM PST by Susquehanna Patriot
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To: hardspunned

Borrow? Nothing. They will print money and make inflation even worse.


4 posted on 03/05/2022 5:39:54 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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To: hardspunned

Borrow or figuratively print at this point?


5 posted on 03/05/2022 5:44:57 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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Nobody cares. We've built up and funded enemies around the world with trade as well.


6 posted on 03/05/2022 5:45:20 AM PST by Theoria
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To: hardspunned

The new world order and the military industrial complex will sell as many weapons as they can get away with to starts new wars. Wars are income security for the war machines.


7 posted on 03/05/2022 5:46:22 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: hardspunned

To answer your question: as much as needed for RINOs and Democrats to win in November.


8 posted on 03/05/2022 5:46:38 AM PST by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: hardspunned

Do we leave these places better than we found them? Just asking.


9 posted on 03/05/2022 5:52:21 AM PST by Fido969 (45 is Superman!)
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To: hardspunned

The more the better.

We should borrow and print as much as it takes to overwhelm the FED and the fiat financial system. It has to be this way.

It’s ALL coming down, and soon.

$31T? Make it $50T, no matter.

It has to crash, to bring in the plans for the new Precious-metals backed financial system - NESARA/GESARA.


10 posted on 03/05/2022 5:53:06 AM PST by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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For the record, for the $31T debt, we’ve never paid a dime back in principal, and never will.


11 posted on 03/05/2022 5:54:07 AM PST by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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Add the trillions they’ll produce for this generational commitment and you start talking about serious money.


12 posted on 03/05/2022 5:57:54 AM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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most of these countries are in better financial condition than the US. Let them purchase the weapons.


13 posted on 03/05/2022 6:06:23 AM PST by elpadre (And here in NCini)
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To: Susquehanna Patriot

Raytheon is one of many. Last week General Dynamics announced a $6B tank deal. ChaChing$$$$! Our DC oligarch ran Military Industrial Complex collects all the way around. We spend trillions over twenty years looking for yellow cake uranium in Iraq and Afghanistan. Remember the SAUDIS, everyone in DC DS knew, were responsible for 9/11. Raytheon arms the US military, the client nation armies, the Saudi Military, the international arms market, legal or not, that arm the Islamists we’re fighting. I’d love to be the ex senator’s son sitting on the Raytheon board.


14 posted on 03/05/2022 6:07:27 AM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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For the record, for the $31T debt, we’ve never paid a dime back in principal, and never will.
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Correct, then add to that the estimated 20 plus trillion ( some say $40 trillion) in US UN- FUNDED liabilities. Unfunded liabilities is the elephant sitting in the room. In fact, we are witnessing a worldwide credit / debt crisis, total worldwide debt is estimated at $380 trillion dollars plus. None of that can ever be repaid, that is what The Great Reset is all about.

Great Reset= Global debt repudiation ( Shemitah) worldwide economic crash THEN as the globalists and Senile Joe like to say “ Build Back Better”. Severe pain is around the corner.


15 posted on 03/05/2022 6:09:37 AM PST by delta7
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https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/is-war-the-ploy-for-the-great-reset/


16 posted on 03/05/2022 6:11:47 AM PST by delta7
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To: hardspunned

It’s not money, it is currency. Fiat currency. The current currency has reached it’s end-of-life.

Money is physical gold, physical silver.


17 posted on 03/05/2022 6:14:01 AM PST by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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most of these countries are in better financial condition than the US. Let them purchase the weapons.

We have failed to learn from history.

After WWII, industry around the world was pretty much bombed flat. US industry was not. We produced tons of stuff. Sold huge quantities in Europe and in Japan and we became incredibly rich as the world rebuilt.

Then we set about the task of de-industrializing ourselves.

Today, we spend money we do not have, in order to make sure that other countries can remain pristine, untouched, and economically strong.

We're idiots.

18 posted on 03/05/2022 6:14:41 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Ukraine is not a good country and does not deserve active US support.)
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To: Susquehanna Patriot

Western Europe and the United States bear no resemblance to themselves of two years ago. You, I, the people of Canada, Australia, New Zealand are now living in police states. It is little wonder that Putin is as terrified of them as I am. I will continue to say until I’m branded “misinformationick” and done under, that the thugs currently running DC are Nazis.


19 posted on 03/05/2022 6:36:05 AM PST by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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Let’s not forget that with Biden buying Russian oil, the US dollars will subsidize the Russian arms production.

This is kabuki theater at its finest.


20 posted on 03/05/2022 6:37:14 AM PST by sergeantdave
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