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Teen, 18, is charged with first-degree murder for shooting dead father-of-two who walked over to his car and hit him in face through his window during road rage attack
UK Daily Mail ^ | 3/2/2022 | Alastair Talbot

Posted on 03/03/2022 3:31:12 AM PST by fruser1

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To: fruser1

sure sounds like the dead guy was the aggressor in this case which makes it Self Defense


41 posted on 03/03/2022 6:48:25 AM PST by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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To: fruser1

It sure sounds like self defense, but in Illinois, they will try to crucify anyone who uses a gun unless they are a leftist or shoot a cop.

The fact that the man had kids is irrelevant and meant to bias the reader.


42 posted on 03/03/2022 7:00:37 AM PST by EastTexasTraveler
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To: Feckless; sonofagun

Thank you for your response


43 posted on 03/03/2022 7:01:49 AM PST by HollyB
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To: moovova

I’ve also learned some Russian profanity (those were the first crash videos I started watching).


Yep. It was a big deal to me when they started adding in US and Canada videos. Heck, I’ve driven in almost every state in the US and quite often the videos happen at intersections or roadways I’m familiar with.

The funny thing about the “Karen Cams” is that the “bad guy in a lot of those could easily have been ME.

I’m not an agressive driver, but I’m an assertive driver. It means that if I’m the second car back at a left turn “flashing arrow” and the guy in front of me is waiting for a car hundreds of yards in front of us, I just make the turn from behind him and leave him waiting. I’ve probably done that 20 times or more in my commuting days. I keep expecting to see myself in one of those videos. 🤣


44 posted on 03/03/2022 7:04:07 AM PST by cuban leaf (My prediction: Harris is Spiro Agnew. We'll soon see who becomes Gerald Ford, and our next prez.)
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To: sonofagun

I live in Illinois and I carry, as do many others.
The area around Chicago may be a little different. I’m about 90 miles from there.
If I’m traveling to Chicago to visit my daughter I don’t carry- I know I should, but should something happen (traffic incident, most likely) I don’t want a gun on me if the cops come callin. I’m a stranger in a strange land, and if someone is gonna cut me off in traffic around there, I’m gonna let them.
Years ago when she had her first apartment shared with another student, we had to drive thru Cicero to get there. That was before we had CCL in Illinois. I wish I could’ve been carrying back then. That was white knuckle driving at its finest😮


45 posted on 03/03/2022 7:20:01 AM PST by telescope115 (Proud member of the ANTIFAuci movement. )
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To: moovova

...and liver...and spleen


46 posted on 03/03/2022 7:26:58 AM PST by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: cuban leaf

I used to be “assertive” 😎. But, when I got my concealed carry license...my driving improved 100%.


47 posted on 03/03/2022 7:34:30 AM PST by moovova
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To: Tupelo

‘According to the headline, the guy was already dead.’

I knew someone would post that before I did...


48 posted on 03/03/2022 7:34:49 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: MCSETots

“Because Mejia is under 21 and without a conceal carry license, he shouldn’t have had the gun.”

Depends on the state. Your probably right in IL, but in many states he was legal in his own car.


49 posted on 03/03/2022 7:44:03 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: fruser1

Seems pretty straight forward self defense to me. Still reserving the right to change my opinion based on more accurate information.


50 posted on 03/03/2022 7:46:16 AM PST by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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To: fruser1

What am I missing here? I would have shot him in a heart beat.


51 posted on 03/03/2022 7:54:11 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: HollyB

+1

5.56mm


52 posted on 03/03/2022 8:05:40 AM PST by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho need to go.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

That is wrong. What if the maniac chasing you all over town and storming up to your car has a gun himself? As soon as he sees your gun, you are dead.

You keep your weapon concealed until you feel your life is threatened. Then you reveal it and use it.


53 posted on 03/03/2022 10:53:14 AM PST by nitzy
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That is wrong. What if the maniac chasing you all over town and storming up to your car has a gun himself? As soon as he sees your gun, you are dead.

Looked to me like we could see both of his hands.

54 posted on 03/03/2022 11:16:01 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: fruser1
Have to side with the kid here if everything is as presented.

He was chased down and assaulted.

At that point you have the right to defend yourself.

55 posted on 03/03/2022 11:18:16 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (It is better to light a single flame thrower then curse the darkness. A bunch of them is better yet)
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To: Tupelo
What the Hell? According to the headline, the guy was already dead.

Actually, it’s journalism that’s dead.

56 posted on 03/03/2022 11:20:21 AM PST by Allegra
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To: Allegra

+1

5.56mm


57 posted on 03/03/2022 11:29:41 AM PST by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho need to go.)
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To: fruser1

I vote not gulity. I would have shot him myself in that situation.


58 posted on 03/03/2022 1:34:29 PM PST by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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To: fruser1
No stand your ground in Chitown. Gun was probably illegal, as well.
59 posted on 03/03/2022 1:39:18 PM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: TalBlack

Rushing into a vehicle’s maneuvering zone and going around is what New Yorkers do 24/7/365. No one would give it a second thought here.

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The worst examples of that tactic I’ve ever seen were in Toronto.


60 posted on 03/03/2022 5:33:23 PM PST by Graybeard58 (The China virus doesn't scare me, Venezuelaism does.)
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