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1 posted on 03/02/2022 3:00:48 PM PST by FreedomForce
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Those Javelin Missles are awesome, but they can't stop Ivan all by themselves.


2 posted on 03/02/2022 3:03:41 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (Let's go Brandon)
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I’m inclined to agree. CNN’s Hertling is doing what his employers want - selling a rah-rah narrative - rather than saying what he really thinks. Shame on him. I’m sympathetic to the Ukrainian cause, but some of the optimistic hyperbole is just off-the-wall.


3 posted on 03/02/2022 3:06:35 PM PST by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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Information that sounds somewhat reasonable and realistic.

Wild!


4 posted on 03/02/2022 3:07:25 PM PST by americas.best.days... ( Donald John Trump has pulled the sword from the stone.)
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I read this earlier today. It is a sober message.

There is a lot of hope around the underdog story here. But in the end, Russia—for all their military shortcomings—will prevail.


5 posted on 03/02/2022 3:08:09 PM PST by Vermont Lt
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Here comes the pivot. Kiev will fall and all the talking heads will be changing the tune


8 posted on 03/02/2022 3:09:25 PM PST by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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Putin is crazy, but it kind of is failing, because the whole strategy was for it to end before it even began. The fact that Russia didn’t role through in a rout was not good for them.


10 posted on 03/02/2022 3:10:51 PM PST by nickcarraway
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Is a Pyrrhic victory really a victory?

If Putin manages to take Ukraine at the cost of tens of thousands of dead young Russians who only months ago were drinking beer, dancing in clubs and playing video games

plus large numbers of Ukrainian soldiers and civilians casualties

and destroying beautiful European cities like Kiev and Kharkiv and Odessa

earning the enmity of the world, don’t count out China ultimately distancing itself from Putin

His only allies Venezeuala, Syria, Cuba, Myanmar

Reducing his own people to mere subsistence living in a total police state


11 posted on 03/02/2022 3:12:38 PM PST by Meet the New Boss (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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I was against involvement, from a military perspective, of NATO in this conflict. I believe it will be bloody and probably horrific to watch. The only thing that I am certain of, is that Putin will do it all again to the next country.

With that belief, I am not sure that we get a better opportunity to destroy Half their military than we have now. I sincerely doubt the Russians would recover after amputating the armored columns sitting in place in Ukraine. If Russia is going to go nuclear, then it won’t change the stakes with the next county he invades.

Perhaps we should consider the opportunity since the stakes don’t change.


16 posted on 03/02/2022 3:13:59 PM PST by Pete Dovgan
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Putin is NOT crazy and the Russian invasion is NOT failing.

Bill Roggio is definitely not fluent in Newspeak, and the Ministry Of Truth is really upset.

17 posted on 03/02/2022 3:14:06 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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He’s right but we can’t let that get in the way of freeper slugfests can we


18 posted on 03/02/2022 3:14:13 PM PST by wardaddy (1-20-21 if ever was a day needed a reckoning settled with blood....I'm with Bannon)
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The author of this piece, Bill Roggio, did great War reporting from Afghanistan, and has Military experience.

He is very credible in my book, even when just airing his opinions.


19 posted on 03/02/2022 3:16:00 PM PST by BeauBo
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This is a huge volte-face for the Daily Mail. What gives?

Over the last 6 days, there hasn’t been a Ukraine meme they didn’t publish - from the Ghost Pilot to the Ukraine Models who signed up to fight.


23 posted on 03/02/2022 3:18:45 PM PST by PGR88
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I spent 30 years looking at how the Russians fight.

I am not surprised by how they are fighting.


26 posted on 03/02/2022 3:20:46 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer”)
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If Putin’s goal is to destroy Ukraine he can do it. If his goal is to conquer the Ukrainian people he has a long and costly way to go.


28 posted on 03/02/2022 3:23:51 PM PST by Rebelbase
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“Ukraine is being LIBERATED by Russia, not attacked. The are removing the Khazarian mafia, the US biological weapons labs, and the Biden/Obama money laundering operations. My organizations speaks to dozens of people currently living in Ukraine and they are so happy that liberation has finally come. DO NOT LISTEN TO THE MEDIA....ALL STORIES ARE LIES. The enemy is in the gates, not in Russia. CLUE IN”

-Nick Sylvester


30 posted on 03/02/2022 3:25:16 PM PST by afchief
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Putinesta defending the Leader


33 posted on 03/02/2022 3:25:42 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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Wow! DM sobered up.


42 posted on 03/02/2022 3:31:38 PM PST by NorseViking
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I am hoping, perhaps naively, that Russia did not deliver a one time knock out blow because they didn’t want a high civilian death rate.

They are fellow Russians after all.

I don’t know that this was the motivation. Just would like to think so.


43 posted on 03/02/2022 3:32:04 PM PST by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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Bill Roggio makes valid points, but most reasonable commentators have always said that Russia will win in the end, if the fighting continues.

If Zelensky had run away, Nord Stream 2 would still be in business and Germany would not have committed to increase military spending to 2% of GDP. Germany has gone from offering 5,000 helmets to providing 500 stingers. Quoting the coroner of Munchkinland, Germany's relationship with Putin is "no only merely dead, its really most sincerely dead." And, that is very good news.

Roggio's last sentence is about helping Ukraine, which may be a lower priority than hurting Russia.

55 posted on 03/02/2022 3:38:48 PM PST by Kaisersrsic
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65 posted on 03/02/2022 3:46:41 PM PST by dynachrome ("I will not be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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