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Amazingly, Kyiv Is Still Holding out, and Putin Is Reportedly Furious
Red State ^ | 02/26/2022 | Nick Arama

Posted on 02/26/2022 8:45:12 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Turbo Pig

“Putin is walking a fine line”

Yes, I think one reason why Putin didn’t deliver an fast, blitzkrieg-like azzkicking is not just the bad worldwide PR & ill will it would generate, but he knows where the golden egg laying geese are in the region.

But I think people are so used to things being instant that for many a few days = eternity. They wouldn’t be able to process the time involved in the comeback after Pearl Harbor. And wait til they read about the Hundred Years war.


81 posted on 02/27/2022 5:54:42 AM PST by LouieFisk
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To: allendale

“He does not have the support of his own people to prosecute this war.”

With few exceptions, he has also got the whole world demonstrating against him and this senseless war.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10557215/Ukraine-war-Russians-turn-Putin-Kremlin-threatens-jail-traitors-try-help-Ukraine.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10557167/World-rages-Putins-war-Hundreds-thousands-protestors-streets-Berlin-Madrid.html


82 posted on 02/27/2022 7:11:46 AM PST by Cecily
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To: SeekAndFind

I have photos from friends in Kiev. He is bombing the h-— out of it right now. It’s horrible. Putin is a demon and crazy. Those people are already so poor and now they have nothing, are sick, surviving in bomb shelters.

I’m not saying US should be over there, buy good grief, dont the Europeans know they are next?


83 posted on 02/27/2022 7:49:40 AM PST by boxlunch (10th Amendmt: nullification or Texit? PS We're in a hot war: globalists, CCP, media, Dems, RINOs)
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To: Mariner

84 posted on 02/27/2022 9:09:09 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: happyathome
They started out WW 2 pretty poorly, but by 1945 they were matching the Germans in strategic and operational planning and execution (not yet tactical skill at small unit levels). And their combined arms offensive in Manchuria in August 1945 was as important in forcing Japan’s surrender as the atomic bombs were - post-war Japanese testimony is pretty clear on this.

And that depending on support from these US, to the tune of what, 50-75% of their equipment? If there was no lend-lease, Japan would likely have a good sized chunk of the mainland, and there never would have been a Berlin wall, no Cold War, no Warsaw Pact. Eastern Europe would likely be just as socialistic as the rest of Europe nowadays, instead of mostly hating the Commies (Russians). Yea, they did help with Napolean, but again that was mostly the winter, not Russia, that did that. And back when everyone was around the same technological level.

And Russia is still the same today, albeit somewhat better supplied, but it's still crap. START inspections back in the 90s found that something like 70% (if I recall correctly) of Russian nuke silos were so badly flooded or had rusted out fuel tanks that they couldn't have even gotten out of the ground. Of the rest, they had similar maintenance issues that likely would have prevented fission (so just dirty bombs, not true nukes), or had hidden issues that would have mostly prevented successful launch/strike. Maybe 5% of their nukes could be expected to be useful.

Didn't their sole carrier on it's world tour require a tug to accompany it, and didn't even make it all the way?

Sure, Ruska may have a few well-equipped and well-trained Spetsnaz groups, maybe some decent sub crews, but as a whole their military is a job program, not a real force to be reckoned with. China is probably somewhat better than they are, despite Chinese requirements for Russian engines or spying on US projects. Russia is a partial threat to tribes in Muslim-land or Tiny countries with little equipment/regular military, but that's about it. Their only real way to fight anyone is to cut off their hydrocarbon exports, but that hurts themselves just as much.
85 posted on 02/27/2022 10:00:17 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: Levy78
The Russian killed literally most of the Germans who stepped foot in Russia and you’re asking if they’ve ver been successful at war?

Meh. 50-75% of German casualties were from the Russian winter, not from Russian actions.
86 posted on 02/27/2022 10:16:27 AM PST by Svartalfiar
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To: SeekAndFind
Didn’t they defeat Hitler’s soldiers in his assault from the East?

I think it was just one Old Man: a relative of THIS fella...


87 posted on 02/27/2022 10:24:53 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: bte

Thanks for that Lee Smith link. He knows his stuff. So much propaganda from the US and Ukraine on this site these days. And the sheep fall for it.

No actual sources. Videos faked, or from years ago. Recycled “victims.” Fake “heroes.”

I thought freepers were smarter than this.

Nope!

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/02/26/stunning-discovery-evidence-suggests-u-s-intel-baited-russia-in-december-by-telling-china-ukraine-was-c


88 posted on 02/27/2022 10:29:43 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (Putin is behaving rationally. The war is on Biden and Obama.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Comrade Xi is taking notice and taking pause. The people of Taiwan owe the heroic Ukrainian people a great debt.

The difference is that Xi has less concern for the deaths of even half a billion Chinese; in fact he NEEDS his population reduced.

89 posted on 02/27/2022 10:30:05 AM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Svartalfiar

Yep all good points. Their current military is in pretty poos shape and this war is making that clear. I think the Chinese must be licking their lips and planning a move on Siberia at some point.

My point was that in their past the Russians have had some success, in answer to your original question.


90 posted on 02/27/2022 10:35:36 AM PST by happyathome
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To: happyathome
...But they were the decisive factor in defeating Napoleon...

THE???



91 posted on 02/27/2022 10:38:04 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Svartalfiar

Uhhh yeah because they couldn’t egress because they were surrounded.


92 posted on 02/27/2022 10:45:17 AM PST by Levy78
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To: JimRed

RE: The difference is that Xi has less concern for the deaths of even half a billion Chinese.

Am I understanding this right? You’re saying that Putin is less of a butcher than Xi and will seriously reconsider when enough people have been killed?


93 posted on 02/27/2022 10:47:39 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind; Dalberg-Acton; Meet the New Boss; flaglady47; M Kehoe; seenenuf; mcmuffin; ...
From now on, I'm referring to Vladimir Putin as "Vlad the Impaler".

The original Vlad the Impaler was a Romanian despot who reigned in the middle-ages and who used impalement as his favorite method of executing his enemies.

Leni

94 posted on 02/27/2022 11:05:43 AM PST by MinuteGal (Twenty-Four Years a Freeper....and lovin' every minute of it.....MAGA ! MAGA! MAGA !)
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To: SeekAndFind
You’re saying that Putin is less of a butcher than Xi and will seriously reconsider when enough people have been killed?

No, if both of them assumed room temperature today I'd not shed a tear. But Xi NEEDS to be rid of a lot of people. Putin does not NEED that.

95 posted on 02/27/2022 11:37:52 AM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: MinuteGal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_the_Impaler#Ottoman_war


96 posted on 02/27/2022 11:57:30 AM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m so glad that Putin is furious.
I hope you realize that this is a diaper load of BS


97 posted on 02/27/2022 12:03:49 PM PST by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: Mariner

It was weeks before the fall of Baghdad. Even Kabul didn’t fall in 3 days. I do t actually know what’s going on and I suspect not many do but FR is posting all of the globalist propaganda anyways. Does this mean the other fake story is finally over?


98 posted on 02/27/2022 12:13:56 PM PST by wiseprince (Me,)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; All

You talk as if you are on the ground. It’s quite hilarious (and sad) that after being lied to for 2 years straight about the “pandemic” everyone jumps back into the hands of the globalist and propagandists and don’t really seem to notice what they’re doing. 4 years of hearing that Putin put Trump In power, 2 years of it came from a bat, a couple of months of, The truckers are white supremacist being guided by Putin and you STILL accept their word as gospel. What will come of this world?


99 posted on 02/27/2022 12:20:38 PM PST by wiseprince (Me,)
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To: wiseprince
You talk as if you are on the ground. It’s quite hilarious (and sad) that after being lied to for 2 years straight about the “pandemic” everyone jumps back into the hands of the globalist and propagandists and don’t really seem to notice what they’re doing. 4 years of hearing that Putin put Trump In power, 2 years of it came from a bat, a couple of months of, The truckers are white supremacist being guided by Putin and you STILL accept their word as gospel.

worth repeating ...
100 posted on 02/27/2022 12:24:19 PM PST by bankwalker (Repeal the 19th ...)
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