Posted on 02/24/2022 1:08:18 PM PST by RomanSoldier19
Russian armor seems to be sticking to the roads. I wonder if there has been a thaw making the ground semi-impassable?
Hard to see what the objective is. Seize everything east of the Dnieper? Topple the government in Kiev?
I'm not sure 190K troops are enough if the Ukrainians dig in. Certainly not enough to take Kiev if there is heavy resistance. A bogged down assault with really heavy civilian casualties in Kiev might draw in NATO air.
Plus as you suggest I think we are feeding a lot of drone and signals intel to the Ukrainians.
Very hard from what I see. I don't think the Russians have succeeded in taking Kharkov, and I've read the Ukrainians retook Antonov airport outside Kiev.
Putin has overplayed his hand. He could have taken the eastern cities without much of a fight. He stupidly attacked Kyiv which has only hardened Ukrainian resistance.
Putin didn’t expect the Ukrainians to fight this hard and misjudged the morale of his army. I expect he’s planning on the EU bullying Ukraine into surrender. That’s what happened in 2014. If Putin was so brilliant he wouldn’t have to use his army on Ukraine. He’s a thug and dumb one at that.
One thing I hope comes out of this is in Belarus where the people there will finally rise up and give Lukashenko the Mussolini Treatment he thoroughly deserves.
The Ukrainians handed out 10,000 military rifles to citizens today in Kyiv. Have plenty of anti tank missiles. Plenty of guns floating around from 8 years of war. Putin can’t occupy the whole country. I think his plan is to destroy it. And that Germany and Brandon will force Ukraine to surrender.
bttt
All my life people have confused my truthtelling and reporting with advocacy. I am not advocating what the guy said on the radio. Just reporting it to you.
I am afraid all of us will die in the aftermath of nuclear war because egotistical little sh#ts are butting heads and trying to escalate war moves to each other and this could result in a nuclear war. WE would all be killed for THEIR ego trips.
I would take Kaliningrad first.
Agree.
We have to bring the Biden poll watchers and the Putin ego trippers back from the brink of total nuclear war deaths for all of us.
WE didn’t do anything. Those pompous a-holes did.
Like little boys fighting and tearing their shirts in the 4th grad schoolyard. But WE could die over the outcome.
How big is the Belarussian army compared to Russia’s? Also I believe as soon as troops entered Belarus, the Belarussian people would start taking matters in their own hands, just as they did in Italy with Mussolini.
Then we have a bargaining chip, as well.
As I said to another, all my life people have confused my reporting to them or my truthtelling with advocacy. I am NOT advocating hitting the diesel or other fuel supplies. I reported what the guy said.
These little boys with big men egos escalating could kill all of US in THEIR ego clashes. The dirty Dr.Strangelove leaders are active in real life. I wish we could stop them but we are all powerless.
Biden wants to raise his poll numbers for the Dem election in Nov.2022.
Putin wants to empower himself, link his image to a return to the Soviet days and to the Russian Empire.
To get there they will kill all of us.
The Russians have learned a lot from US and Israel while training in Syria.
The one in the foreground is a late model BTR possibly a BTR-70. The burning vehicle is a BMP infantry fighting vehicle. I suspect most of the so-called “light tanks” noted by ill informed journalists are BMPs. A vehicle with tracks and a turret is not always a tank. Even my frau knows that but she is not a journalist.
Russia does have reliable self-propelled tube artillery - but even the US has found that our SPGs are unable to keep up with the Abrams over the course of the last several decades. Russian rocket artillery is more developed than ours, more diverse (as in types, not the Biden sense), and *can* keep up with the armor. In fact, nobody’s been able to come up with SPGs that can reliably keep up with the armor, even in exercises unless they’re unrealistic.
Something worth noting is that while both sides have evolved versions of armor and artillery that was in use in the Soviet period (Ukraine was the armor/vehicle development and production area of the old USSR), the Ukraine generally has merely reasonably upgraded versions of the kind many people here think would be easily defeated by US weapons and the Russians have (not uniformly, but in sufficient numbers) hugely upgraded versions, plus new vehicle/weapon types that were developed after the separation. The latter is what too many people here stuck in the 80s and 90s are denying exist and are likely why this is looking like a walkover.
There don’t seem to be any obvious visible distinguishing markings and both sides still have these exact types in service to this day. Without markings or enough surviving visible equipment on the outside to tell variations apart, there’s no way to tell whose they are. There’s nothing obviously “Russian only, not Ukranian” in terms of the hull shapes. It could literally be either sides’ vehicles.
Ukrainians say they’ve already been taking out armor with these javelins and NLAWS.
Molotov cocktails were very effective against APC types during the Ukraine Maidan conflict in 2014.
Does not make sense if you are a modern, bourgeois thinker. Makes perfect sense if you’re a dictator. How long did the Soviets live in poverty? Constantly. Did not stop them.
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