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Russian troops ‘closing in on Kyiv as Ukraine suffers second bombing wave’-
metro ^ | 2/24/2020 | Faye Brown and Sean Seddon

Posted on 02/24/2022 1:08:18 PM PST by RomanSoldier19

Ukraine is being hit by a second wave of missile strikes from Russia following a heavy bombing campaign this morning.

An adviser to the president confirmed the fresh round of attacks after explosions were heard in a number of cities.

Footage shows a military warehouse near Odessa being obliterated while another video appears to show a number of Russian helicopters attempting to seize Antonov Aiport.

The strikes come after Ukraine’s border force confirmed a checkpoint between the Kyiv region and Belarus had been overrun by Russian forces.

Troops and tanks have entered the Vilcha crossing, which lies less than a 100 miles north of the capital on a road which runs directly to the city.

It’s the first sign of a significant ground invasion making a breakthrough in the west of the country.

The checkpoint is around a two-and-a-half drive from Kyiv, which has sustained rocket strikes since this morning.

(Excerpt) Read more at metro.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: blitzkrieg; inforthekill; russia; ukraine
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To: protoconservative
The absence of heavy artillery on both sides is surprising. I would guess neither side has reliable self-propelled big guns and/or the logistics train to haul the ammo. Or the Red Army just prioritized speed over artillery and is using rockets instead.

Russian armor seems to be sticking to the roads. I wonder if there has been a thaw making the ground semi-impassable?

Hard to see what the objective is. Seize everything east of the Dnieper? Topple the government in Kiev?

I'm not sure 190K troops are enough if the Ukrainians dig in. Certainly not enough to take Kiev if there is heavy resistance. A bogged down assault with really heavy civilian casualties in Kiev might draw in NATO air.

Plus as you suggest I think we are feeding a lot of drone and signals intel to the Ukrainians.

101 posted on 02/24/2022 4:11:08 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Leep
Is Ukraine even fighting back?

Very hard from what I see. I don't think the Russians have succeeded in taking Kharkov, and I've read the Ukrainians retook Antonov airport outside Kiev.

102 posted on 02/24/2022 4:13:45 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: pierrem15

Putin has overplayed his hand. He could have taken the eastern cities without much of a fight. He stupidly attacked Kyiv which has only hardened Ukrainian resistance.

Putin didn’t expect the Ukrainians to fight this hard and misjudged the morale of his army. I expect he’s planning on the EU bullying Ukraine into surrender. That’s what happened in 2014. If Putin was so brilliant he wouldn’t have to use his army on Ukraine. He’s a thug and dumb one at that.


103 posted on 02/24/2022 4:26:02 PM PST by lodi90
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To: lodi90

One thing I hope comes out of this is in Belarus where the people there will finally rise up and give Lukashenko the Mussolini Treatment he thoroughly deserves.


104 posted on 02/24/2022 4:26:56 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

The Ukrainians handed out 10,000 military rifles to citizens today in Kyiv. Have plenty of anti tank missiles. Plenty of guns floating around from 8 years of war. Putin can’t occupy the whole country. I think his plan is to destroy it. And that Germany and Brandon will force Ukraine to surrender.


105 posted on 02/24/2022 4:35:37 PM PST by lodi90
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To: RomanSoldier19

bttt


106 posted on 02/24/2022 4:53:30 PM PST by adc (wethepeople)
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To: Jay W
And then what might happen? Let me rephrase that question. Do you think you’re within or outside the blast radius of the nuke targeted for your city or town?

All my life people have confused my truthtelling and reporting with advocacy. I am not advocating what the guy said on the radio. Just reporting it to you.

I am afraid all of us will die in the aftermath of nuclear war because egotistical little sh#ts are butting heads and trying to escalate war moves to each other and this could result in a nuclear war. WE would all be killed for THEIR ego trips.

107 posted on 02/24/2022 5:07:48 PM PST by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: dfwgator

I would take Kaliningrad first.


108 posted on 02/24/2022 5:08:30 PM PST by bravo whiskey (Annie Savoy : The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self awareness. )
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To: Arcadian Empire

Agree.

We have to bring the Biden poll watchers and the Putin ego trippers back from the brink of total nuclear war deaths for all of us.

WE didn’t do anything. Those pompous a-holes did.

Like little boys fighting and tearing their shirts in the 4th grad schoolyard. But WE could die over the outcome.


109 posted on 02/24/2022 5:11:14 PM PST by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: bravo whiskey

How big is the Belarussian army compared to Russia’s? Also I believe as soon as troops entered Belarus, the Belarussian people would start taking matters in their own hands, just as they did in Italy with Mussolini.

Then we have a bargaining chip, as well.


110 posted on 02/24/2022 5:11:24 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Spktyr

As I said to another, all my life people have confused my reporting to them or my truthtelling with advocacy. I am NOT advocating hitting the diesel or other fuel supplies. I reported what the guy said.

These little boys with big men egos escalating could kill all of US in THEIR ego clashes. The dirty Dr.Strangelove leaders are active in real life. I wish we could stop them but we are all powerless.

Biden wants to raise his poll numbers for the Dem election in Nov.2022.
Putin wants to empower himself, link his image to a return to the Soviet days and to the Russian Empire.

To get there they will kill all of us.


111 posted on 02/24/2022 5:15:24 PM PST by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: RomanSoldier19

The Russians have learned a lot from US and Israel while training in Syria.


112 posted on 02/24/2022 5:28:53 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Spktyr

The one in the foreground is a late model BTR possibly a BTR-70. The burning vehicle is a BMP infantry fighting vehicle. I suspect most of the so-called “light tanks” noted by ill informed journalists are BMPs. A vehicle with tracks and a turret is not always a tank. Even my frau knows that but she is not a journalist.


113 posted on 02/24/2022 5:30:04 PM PST by bravo whiskey (Annie Savoy : The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self awareness. )
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To: pierrem15

Russia does have reliable self-propelled tube artillery - but even the US has found that our SPGs are unable to keep up with the Abrams over the course of the last several decades. Russian rocket artillery is more developed than ours, more diverse (as in types, not the Biden sense), and *can* keep up with the armor. In fact, nobody’s been able to come up with SPGs that can reliably keep up with the armor, even in exercises unless they’re unrealistic.

Something worth noting is that while both sides have evolved versions of armor and artillery that was in use in the Soviet period (Ukraine was the armor/vehicle development and production area of the old USSR), the Ukraine generally has merely reasonably upgraded versions of the kind many people here think would be easily defeated by US weapons and the Russians have (not uniformly, but in sufficient numbers) hugely upgraded versions, plus new vehicle/weapon types that were developed after the separation. The latter is what too many people here stuck in the 80s and 90s are denying exist and are likely why this is looking like a walkover.


114 posted on 02/24/2022 5:34:42 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: bravo whiskey

There don’t seem to be any obvious visible distinguishing markings and both sides still have these exact types in service to this day. Without markings or enough surviving visible equipment on the outside to tell variations apart, there’s no way to tell whose they are. There’s nothing obviously “Russian only, not Ukranian” in terms of the hull shapes. It could literally be either sides’ vehicles.


115 posted on 02/24/2022 5:36:46 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: pierrem15
If, as it appears, the Ukrainians plan to defend Kiev as stated, I suspect the Russians will do to Kiev just what they did to Berlin at the end of WW-II - destroy it with heavy bombardment and artillery fire, and kill multiple numbers of civilians.
116 posted on 02/24/2022 5:40:23 PM PST by CedarDave (Pfizer's boosters: You just turned your immune system's functionality into a subscription service!)
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To: Yo-Yo

Ukrainians say they’ve already been taking out armor with these javelins and NLAWS.


117 posted on 02/24/2022 5:45:41 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Spktyr

Molotov cocktails were very effective against APC types during the Ukraine Maidan conflict in 2014.


119 posted on 02/24/2022 5:53:48 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: ifinnegan

Does not make sense if you are a modern, bourgeois thinker. Makes perfect sense if you’re a dictator. How long did the Soviets live in poverty? Constantly. Did not stop them.


120 posted on 02/24/2022 5:56:45 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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