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Clinton campaign lawyer Sussmann, others fire back at Durham, deny spying on Trump
The Washington Times ^ | Tuesday, February 15, 2022 | Jeff Mordock

Posted on 02/15/2022 6:19:34 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It is serious enough that they have to deny it, they can’t ignore it.

They are not a crook..........................


21 posted on 02/15/2022 6:40:14 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: jacknhoo

Joffre should be indicted soon too.


22 posted on 02/15/2022 6:40:22 PM PST by tennmountainman ( Less Lindell CONS, More AZ Style Audits)
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To: Gaffer

I am glad to see it. Bomber over target. So in Durham’s pleadings, did he say he suspected criminality? Wouldn’t Durham just say, see you in court?


23 posted on 02/15/2022 6:44:13 PM PST by silent majority rising ( )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I have a feeling lots of folks in the Beltway are making deals right now.


24 posted on 02/15/2022 6:46:03 PM PST by JennysCool ("It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." - Mark Twain)
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To: Golden Eagle

This is just the start of the drip...drip...drip... that will start to come out as additional information is filed with the Court. If Kash Patel is right, Durham has already brought 25 people in front of his Federal Grand Jury and I would bet some of the underlngs have already proffered in order to save their hides.

The key to this whole conspiracy is going to be Marc Elias. If Durham can get the goods on him, he knows where all the skeletons are buried. I also think if you see Jake Sullivan make a hasty departure from the administration, they have the goods on him as well.

Durham is not going to rush this and I believe the corruption runs deeper than anyone realized.


25 posted on 02/15/2022 6:47:54 PM PST by offduty (Joe Biden, Commander in Thief)
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To: Luke21
Washington Times goes on offense for the gang.

Is that not a big improvement? The last two days I have heard the,"Media is ignoring this" and one of my favorites, "If the media didn't report it, it never happened", repeated over and over. As if charges/indictments would never happen as long as they media ignores it. I don't think it works that way.

26 posted on 02/15/2022 6:53:36 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Hey, let’s just have this out in court then, guys.


27 posted on 02/15/2022 6:54:43 PM PST by Bullish (This is the most bloated and most inept govt in history.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Let the desperate squawking begin.


28 posted on 02/15/2022 6:54:44 PM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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They didn’t believe Trump would lose in a landslide.


29 posted on 02/15/2022 6:56:56 PM PST by TakebackGOP
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To: offduty
The key to this whole conspiracy is going to be Marc Elias

John Solomon was on Steve Bannon’s show today and those two seemed pretty much in agreement that Elias is likely not only the key player, but possibly the mastermind of the whole scheme.

Solomon went on to say that the key evidence against Sussman presented by Durham appears to have come from Elias. They discussed the implications of this, with Solomon going so far as to say there is a possibility that Elias has turned state witness.

If that’s happened, then it would likely mean 1 of 2 things: either the target is above Elias and not prosecuting him is worth the bigger fish, or Elias is going to be protected and prosecutions won’t even go as high as him.

So it appears that as you said Elias will indeed be the key to everything, but there is still a lot of uncertainty on how this will play out. My thoughts are, as long as Durham has been working on this, he should be much deeper into the surveillance of Page and Papodopolous itself, and who all else got monitored as a result, and how was that spying info slushed around between the agencies and political ops.

Those are the deep details that need to be explored, this is still more peripheral information that’s actually rather redundant since the Steele dossier has already been exposed as the major item that kicked off the spying in advance of this anyway.

30 posted on 02/15/2022 7:03:27 PM PST by Golden Eagle ( What's in YOUR injection? You really have no way of knowing.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
They said Mr. Durham dropped the bombshell “to make this case a partisan affair and to inflame media coverage.”

I heard someone say Durham drop the bomb just before Super bowl to derail his own case...That hit my funny bone. Hilarious stuff.

31 posted on 02/15/2022 7:05:49 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Something about flak and the target....


32 posted on 02/15/2022 7:18:43 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
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To: Golden Eagle

You are right on target! My thoughts exactly in relation to how we no longer here about the phony dossier and the millions of dollar, plus impeachment, suddenly it’s all forgotten about. go figure


33 posted on 02/15/2022 7:48:03 PM PST by V V Camp Enari 67-68 ( This clears up a lot of misconceptions.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Lawyer up. The court cases should start in ....2026.


34 posted on 02/15/2022 8:05:13 PM PST by lurk (u)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Methinks they doth protest too much!

They going to the Big House!


35 posted on 02/15/2022 8:11:27 PM PST by Taxman (SAVE AMERICA!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Mr. Sussmans attorney knows his way around taint


36 posted on 02/15/2022 8:50:41 PM PST by orlop9
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To: Golden Eagle

I will have to listen to Bannon. Solomon was on Hannity tonight and had a copy of the FBI “marching orders” that outlined how and who the FBI was going to target to try and get to Trump. In his usual way, Hannity kept interrupting and I really couldn’t understand exactly what Solomon had and how it fit in the grand scheme of things (Thanks Sean).

If they have the goods on Elias and he has offered to proffer, they may have the goods on fish larger than Hillary. That could be why Durham is playing his cards so closely.

I’m not going to put on a tin-foil hat, but what if this reaches Brennan, Clapper, Comey, Lynch, or possibly Obama himself?

I’ve worked with Federal prosecutors before primarily on drug-related cases and it’s not unusual for these cases to drag on for anywhere from 12-18 mos. depending on the scope and breadth of the criminal enterprise. But what if Durham is faced with criminality at the highest level of government? Would he expose it all and risk a potential Constitutional crisis or does he indict the small fish and make the major players unidicted co-conspirators?

Durham may be on to something with no where to turn. He certainly can’t go to Garland, might as well call the New York Times. Any major Dem will be protected by the media so what does he do?

I think Durham has found more than he bargained for and more than we are aware and now doesn’t know how to proceed. We may never know how far the conspiracy reached.


37 posted on 02/15/2022 8:59:47 PM PST by offduty (Joe Biden, Commander in Thief)
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To: offduty

Due to the a variety of testimony, such as in Congress, or in the Mueller or Horrowitz reports, it’s already established that Comey and Brennan, possibly Clapper, all met with Obama and Biden to discuss the Clinton-cooked Steele dossier, at various points, meaning the conspiracy could have been orchestrated at the highest levels.

Most people have already forgotten by now that Bill Barr once testified before Congress that Trump was quote “clearly spied on” which caused the press to freak out to the extreme.

It was expected that Durham was going to better examine that information, and mine it for criminal actions that Mueller was unwilling to consider.

Instead of farming that seemingly fertile field, he seems to be off looking at this other interesting action that involves the Clinton campaign, but one that in many regards appears unnecessary, as it came along later than the Steele document, and isn’t something that we have any indication was ever discussed at the Comey/Clapper/Brennan level, much less the Obama/Biden one.

So maybe this new info is going somewhere. And maybe Durham hasn’t completely dropped the ball on investigating the Steele dossier, which we know led to spying before this DNS action ever took place. But it is odd this is the only indictment Durham has to show for himself, despite all the work that went into investigating the Steele dossier before Durham ever came along, which exposed possible collaboration at the highest possible levels. Will the phony Steele dossier ever be investigated by Durham, or he is trying to avoid it and use this story in its place, is the question I have right now. So far the new sideshow is all anyone wants to talk about.


38 posted on 02/15/2022 9:32:28 PM PST by Golden Eagle ( What's in YOUR injection? You really have no way of knowing.)
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To: silent majority rising

The article already mentions they (I’m guessing this main guy carping back) are INDICTED. That suggests some aspect of criminality accusation, right?


39 posted on 02/15/2022 10:05:24 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Golden Eagle

That’s true, but the common denominator in all of this is Perkins-Coie. All roads lead back to that firm and Elias. That could be the key to unravel the entire conspiracy. So while the major players did talk about the Steele dossier in the Oval, where they aware it was Clinton op-research?

I don’t believe the principals have acknowledged knowing the dossier was BS. They all admit awareness of its existence, but not the source. If it can be shown their awareness, then they would be party to the conspiracy as well.

You also have the side show with the five I’s which could also be involved. Regardless, this is a large onion that Durham will have to unravel layer by layer.


40 posted on 02/15/2022 10:10:51 PM PST by offduty (Joe Biden, Commander in Thief)
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