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Climate Scientists Encounter Limits of Computer Models, Bedeviling Policy.
Wall Street Journel ^

Posted on 02/13/2022 8:37:19 AM PST by cuz1961

The scientists soon concluded their new calculations had been thrown off kilter by the physics of clouds in a warming world, which may amplify or damp climate change. “The old way is just wrong, we know that,” said Andrew Gettelman, a physicist at NCAR who specializes in clouds and helped develop the CESM2 model.

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KEYWORDS: andrewgettelman; cop26; g20; glasgow; globalwarminghoax; greennewdeal; panicporn; scotland; scotlandyet; weaselwordsmithing
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Today's Weasel 801 Lesson.

Validating the lie in one sentence.

Aka Contradicting yourself in 1 sentence.

Aka Admitting and denying error in one sentence

Aka

Bait and Switch Con Job

AKA Weasel wording 801

Aka Weasel, PhD.

AKA

Presuppositional Sentences.

Can you find it ?

The scientists soon concluded their new calculations had been thrown off kilter by the physics of clouds in a warming world, which may amplify or damp climate change. “The old way is just wrong, we know that,” said Andrew Gettelman, a physicist at NCAR who specializes in clouds and helped develop the CESM2 model.

First, they admit their numbers proving  "in a warming world" were wrong.

Second, they then use the term

"a warming world"

that aserts as fact what they just admitted was based on error.

This is PhD. level bait and switch.

This is PhD. level weasel wording.

Thus ends today's lesson in weasel wordsmithing 801 , Exp #1

Exp.# 2

“The old way is just wrong,

we know that,”

said Andrew Gettelman, a physicist at NCAR

who specializes

in clouds and helped develop the CESM2 model.

So, here we have a weasel up follow up sentence.

A warming world determined by a " specialist".

A specialist who was self admittedly WRONG !

Not much of a sspecialist I'd  say.

Thus ends today's lesson in weasel wordsmithing 801 , Exp #2.

Homework

Deconstruct Exp.#3 Sentence

,,clouds in a warming world, which may amplify or damp climate change.

Find the weasel

AKA Presuppositional Sentence.

1 posted on 02/13/2022 8:37:19 AM PST by cuz1961
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To: cuz1961
Yeah, the climate is changing. But it's G-D MADE climate change.
2 posted on 02/13/2022 8:41:09 AM PST by Impala64ssa (If a liar's pants really did catch on fire ABC, CNN and MSNBC would be more fun to watch)
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To: cuz1961

Sometimes when you believe you are in control instead of Him, you need a slap down. So, climate scientists answer the following and we’ll wait:

1. Define the “correct” temperature range for the planet.

2. Define the “correct” humidity range for the planet.

3. Define the “correct” mean sea level for the planet.

4. Define the “correct” amount of precipitation for the planet.

5. Define the “correct” makeup of the atmosphere.

6. Define the “correct” amount of sea ice at the N/S poles.

7. Define/explain past glaciation and subsequent warming without any input from humans.


3 posted on 02/13/2022 8:42:02 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: cuz1961

This is PhD. level weasel wording.


We need more money?


4 posted on 02/13/2022 8:42:24 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: cuz1961

The solar cycle climate model is 93% accurate at predicting present-day climate based on historical climate data.

https://electroverse.net/professor-valentina-zharkova-breaks-her-silence-and-confirms-super-grand-solar-minimum/

No climate “scientist’s” computer model comes close to that degree of accuracy and never will because of the impossibility of knowing and mapping a virtually infinite number of initial conditions at a precise moment in time.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/09/04/chaos-climate-part-3-chaos-models/

The only reason climate “scientists” don’t use the solar cycle climate model is because it doesn’t give them the result they want; global warming.


5 posted on 02/13/2022 8:44:17 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong [FJB])
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To: cuz1961
What they are saying is that the evidence doesn't support their hypothesis conclusion. That finicky slide rule must be out of calibration.

6 posted on 02/13/2022 8:45:26 AM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: rktman

They can’t define ‘woman’. You are asking the impossible .


7 posted on 02/13/2022 8:47:30 AM PST by FatherofFive (We support Trump. Not the GOP)
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To: cuz1961

Garbage in garbage out and lack of parameters.


8 posted on 02/13/2022 8:49:02 AM PST by the_daug ( )
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To: FatherofFive

Exactly. The same people receiving and demanding billions in government money for their fake climate change scam are the same ones who say there are more than 2 genders. And they are not allowed to be questioned because it is a religion.


9 posted on 02/13/2022 8:49:33 AM PST by imabadboy99
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To: cuz1961
Bedeviling Policy...

That there also hits nail on head.

The GlowBull climate change policy has always been 'bedeviled', aka Deep State "666" Cabal like.

10 posted on 02/13/2022 8:49:52 AM PST by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: imabadboy99
same ones who say there are more than 2 genders

That's cuz they worship Baal and Baphomet.

11 posted on 02/13/2022 8:50:49 AM PST by C210N (Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.)
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To: cuz1961
Water vapor is a greenhouse gas. Higher surface temps can lead to more evaporation. More evaporation leads to more cloud cover. More cloud cover leads to higher albedo. More albedo leads to cooler surface temps.

"What if there was a global warming panic and nobody came?"

12 posted on 02/13/2022 8:52:22 AM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: cuz1961

Corrupt, lying Democrat scum.


13 posted on 02/13/2022 8:54:41 AM PST by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie. )
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To: rktman
I've said the same....many, many times.

There was a professor who was a Nobel prize winner, Ivar Glaever, who had a common sense lecture explaining Climate change as a Pseudo Science. His lecture was magnificent.

I believe the science community, being what it is, took him down to promote their agenda.....which equates to...follow the money.

14 posted on 02/13/2022 8:55:03 AM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: cuz1961

They also ignore the “heat Island effect’ .
Cities with heat concentrating concrete roads and asphalt have grown up around temperature measuring stations. So yes they will measure higher temperatures.


15 posted on 02/13/2022 8:55:36 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Leave me alone, I have no incriminating evidence on the Clinton's )
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To: rktman

Soon questioning “the science” will be considered domestic terrorism.


16 posted on 02/13/2022 9:00:21 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: cuz1961

There is general consensus that the globe is warming, at about a .1 degree per decade, and has been since the end of the Little Ice Age, so the statement “in a warming world” is technically accurate. The warming is imperceptible and if anything, beneficial to life on earth. It has also been known for some time by CAGW skeptics that the various models of climate change have never accounted for the cloud factor. So acknowledgement of this fact may actually be a good thing. We should applaud more accurate models because if applied honestly, they will debunk the agenda not support it.


17 posted on 02/13/2022 9:04:40 AM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: cuz1961
The scientists soon concluded their new calculations had been thrown off kilter by the physics of clouds in a warming world, which may amplify or damp climate change.

The scientists soon concluded that reality had proved their new calculations were just more garbage but they decided to cover it up by blaming it on the physics of clouds.

.

18 posted on 02/13/2022 9:11:38 AM PST by Iron Munro ( Joe Biden - Inventor Of The First New Language since Esperanto)
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To: cuz1961

IOW, even the computer climate models say they can’t model future climate.


19 posted on 02/13/2022 9:15:05 AM PST by Roccus (First we beat the Nazis........Then we defeated the Soviets....... Now, we are them.)
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To: cuz1961

Extrapolations based on assumptions . . . what could go wrong?


20 posted on 02/13/2022 9:15:52 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves)
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