Posted on 02/08/2022 5:03:34 PM PST by elpadre
Russia has denied reports that Vladimir Putin agreed a deal on Ukraine with French President Emmanuel Macron during talks in Moscow yesterday despite Paris' claim he managed to exact concessions from the Kremlin.
The denial comes amid fiery warnings from Moscow that a nuclear war could break out if Ukraine joins NATO and after Putin accused the West of 'complete disregard for our concerns' following the six-hour-long talks yesterday.
Macron had said Putin told him that 'he won't be initiating an escalation' in Ukraine and that there will not be any Russian 'permanent [military] base' or 'deployment' in Belarus, where Russia had sent a large amount of troops ostensibly for major war games.
But Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said today the reports were 'essentially wrong' because it was 'simply impossible' for Moscow and Paris to 'conclude any deals'.
'France is the EU presidency, France is a member of NATO, where Paris does not have leadership. In this bloc, the leadership belongs to a completely different country. What kind of deals can we talk about?', Peskov said.
He added Russia is not 'sensing any real ways towards a solution' and warned that 'de-escalation is really, really needed' because 'tensions are rising day by day'.
Putin and Macron yesterday held lengthy negotiations over the crisis in Ukraine, which the Russian strongman described as 'constructive' after using the familiar 'ty' form of 'you' to address the French President, seen as a sign of a good rapport between the leaders.
But there was no mention of a deal from either leader during yesterday's press conference, in which Putin said that he wanted to 'stress one more time' that 'if Ukraine joins NATO... the European countries will be automatically pulled into a war conflict with Russia'.
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“..He said states would not ‘even have time to blink’ before invoking Article 5 of NATO which demands collective defense of members.
Macron, who will today hold talks in Kiev with Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy, later told journalists on a plane to Kiev that he and Putin had discussed the possible ‘Finlandisation’ of Ukraine - making the country neutral - so that ‘NATO can coexist with Russia’, according to Le Figaro....”
Invite Ukraine to join NATO and let Ukraine decide. F Putin.
And let Western Europe nuke Russia. It's been a nuisance for far too long.
Win/Win.
“after using the familiar ‘ty’ form of ‘you’ to address the French President, seen as a sign of a good rapport between the leaders.”
My Russian is very rusty, but I think it could also suggest that Putin was talking down to him, as if he were talking to a child.
Would you be okay withe Chinese troops on the US-Mexico border?
Let’s Drop the Big One!
We sure didn’t like it when the Russians had those missiles in Cuber.
Possibly but it’s much more likely that this was all planned and vetted ahead of time and both sides agreed to it. I could ask my Russian friend though.
It’s a Kabuki Theater. Biteme is going to get a Nobel Peace Prize for it, when it’s all over.
Ridiculous assumption. Putin is starting all this crap because HE WANTS TO. Ukraine hasn’t made a move to join NATO nor have they been invited in. Maybe a free Georgia or Chechnya hmm?
There are apparently a lot of different journalists who say that's already happened, with Russian Spetznas too. They're embedded with the Narcos. One journalist had to flee Mexico. I think another had a bunch of his sources get mysteriously killed. Occasionally you hear people claiming they saw Chinese soldiers on the border. Mind you, I've seen plenty of Asian looking Hispanics due to all that Indian blood.
I could use the education.
Well that's easy!
Nuke Russian and then ask Ukraine if they'd like to join NATO.
That's the text book response to deadly threats.
Whoa... never saw this coming! /s to the X.
Leftist leaders have absolutely no connection to the real
world.
They propose and at times enact laws than can never do
more than screw things up. People are miserable and die
under their leadership.
Their take on that? Oops... No problem...
Message received. None of the European nations will vote to admit Ukraine to NATO. Not with Germany beholden to Russia for energy and to, a lesser extent, so is the rest of Europe. I don’t think NATO admission is as much the issue as is Western troops and military weapons near Russia’s eastern border. Russia knows Western Europe will do nothing if he moves. His concern is the US and sanction we can unilaterally impose on Russia by licking them off the SWIFT banking system. I don’t know why Putin is wasting his time with a minor feckless irrelevant player like Macron.
NATO has no purpose but they are sure trying to create one.
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