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California State University prepares to drop SATs and ACTs
SF Gate ^ | January 27, 2022 | by JOCELYN GECKER

Posted on 01/27/2022 12:55:16 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

California State University, the largest-four year university system in the country, is poised to eliminate SAT and ACT standardized tests from its undergraduate admissions process, following a trend in higher education over concerns that the exams are unfair to minority and low-income students.

The Board of Trustees for the 23-campus CSU system will vote in March on recommendations to end the testing requirements, which were presented at a meeting Wednesday and met with widespread enthusiasm.

“This issue of SAT and ACT testing has overwhelmed students and families for a long time,” said trustee Diego Arambula. “It feels so important to do this.”

California State University has 486,000 students. If trustees vote to permanently eliminate the exams, CSU would join the University of California in having a “test blind” admission process. The UC’s Board of Regents voted last year to drop the standardized tests at its nine undergraduate campuses.

Critics have long argued that standardized tests put minority and low-income students at a disadvantage, in part because of test questions that can contain inherent bias which more privileged children are better equipped to answer. They also say wealthier students typically take expensive prep courses that help boost their scores, which many students can’t afford.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: act; bidenvoters; racist; sat; university
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1 posted on 01/27/2022 12:55:16 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“The danger of kollidge enrollees being able to read and write.”


2 posted on 01/27/2022 12:56:33 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Just so they won’t have to admit that talents are not distributed equally by race or national background.


3 posted on 01/27/2022 12:58:45 PM PST by I want the USA back (Government is to be feared much more than the chicom virus.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I think this is a terrific move. Just what the University of California needs to do.


4 posted on 01/27/2022 12:58:53 PM PST by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Like math with one correct answer, they were racissss all along.

New policy: Every minority gets in and gets an automatic “A” in every class. Free tuition. Guaranteed degree diploma.


5 posted on 01/27/2022 12:58:53 PM PST by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Welp, more black female federal jurist candidates will be surging into the pipeline.


6 posted on 01/27/2022 1:00:29 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"It feels so important to do this."

Right there is how the left orders their pathetic lives.

7 posted on 01/27/2022 1:02:17 PM PST by fwdude (My pronouns are "Let's, Go, and Brandon." Use them when addressing me or else. )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

They came from a time when they were used to screen student that would likely succeed and graduate college vs those who were lacking the skill level and would likely drop out.

Now they don’t care. Give us your money and we’ll give you a fancy looking paper.


8 posted on 01/27/2022 1:03:38 PM PST by BBQToadRibs2
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To: I want the USA back

Old saying for a game was if it doesn’t matter who wins or loses then why do you keep score?

Okay, NBA will now just let players do their best and not keep score or have wins and losses.

Sounds fair like everybody is equal who wants to get a college degree.

Hope we don’t see a surgeon in the hall of the hospital moving his lips as he pores over “Basic Surgery 101 For Dummies.” Basically a party guy in medical school.


9 posted on 01/27/2022 1:04:45 PM PST by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Unfair to minorities”

Unfair to Japanese, Chinese, Koreans, Jewish people?


10 posted on 01/27/2022 1:05:28 PM PST by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I haven’t been involved in university admissions, but I do know a little about college admissions at a major public University and what the faculty are afraid of.

The faculty generally looks first and foremost for students that will do well academically. They don’t want to waste space and resources on students that will likely drop out, change majors, or flunk out. They are also being constantly challenged to explain why certain students were not selected.

That means that they prefer “objective” factors upon which to base their selection. This includes things like grades and and SAT scores. Subjective things like sports, student activities, public service are mostly subjective. Essay’s are also questionable, because you never know who helped the student write the essay or edit it. When essays are used they often have a really complex (aka time consuming) multiple scorer using blind copies, so that the know nothing about the student except what they write.

Doing away with SAT scores removes one more quantitative factor in the selection process. While some may say that the SAT tests are biased against certain ethnic or cultural groups, banning their use will just add to the administrative load of a lot of colleges and universities. It will do so especially because then the majority of the selection will become subjective and the documentation on each student to support any challenges will be dramatically increased.


11 posted on 01/27/2022 1:05:56 PM PST by Robert357
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Why even bother to have studies of or on anything - just pay your $200,000 tuition and get your piece of paper with some sort of Tibetan Poetry PHD.


12 posted on 01/27/2022 1:06:39 PM PST by SkyDancer ( I make airplanes fly, what's your super power?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So now no one will ever hire a Kalifornia grad.................


13 posted on 01/27/2022 1:09:04 PM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

When you take into account the Fact that 3 out of 4 High School Graduates in California can’t read or write above the third grade level and they can’t do mathematics above the second grade level, it all makes sense, sort of??


14 posted on 01/27/2022 1:09:10 PM PST by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

We ain’t got no requirement for gittin in. And we is gonna keep it that way.


15 posted on 01/27/2022 1:10:23 PM PST by Old Yeller (1776 em all. Let God sort it out.)
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To: SkyDancer

Yes. Spend a fortune for a worthless diploma. But that’s California for ya.


16 posted on 01/27/2022 1:14:36 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"California State University prepares to drop SATs and ACTs"

If the check clears, we'll issue it a diploma.

For the next step, I expect non-humans and inanimate objects being issued degrees.
17 posted on 01/27/2022 1:15:11 PM PST by indthkr
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Yet another dumbing down of the admissions requirements by an Affirmative Action idiot.

Arambula went to Harvard after growing up and attending public schools in Fresno. Anyone think he got a 1600 on his SAT?

It’s to laugh. This move is all about trying to keep more White and Asian applicants out of the colleges while piling in every last Hispanic Studies major they can wedge in.


18 posted on 01/27/2022 1:15:56 PM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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following a trend in higher education over concerns that the exams are unfair to minority and low-income students.

Wasn't that the original reason to implement standardized college admissions testing? To allow the academically excellent access to college no matter what their race, religion or economic background? Maybe the SAT and ACT do too good of job at that giving different results from what leftist college admissions offices want, therefore the measurement standards must be destroyed.

I would like to see the correlation statistics between scores and college success. Does a 1000 mean you are 50%likely to fail at a state university while a 1200 means you are 90% likely to succeed? And do those statistics hold across all races?

19 posted on 01/27/2022 1:17:22 PM PST by KarlInOhio (I stand behind Alec Baldwin. It is far too dangerous to stand in front of him.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I read a few years ago that standardized tests originated because kids from the more prestigious prep schools and high schools got most of the acceptances to the more prestigious colleges. The tests were started to give the kids from average high schools a way to show their abilities in comparison to those from more highly regarded schools.

And I’d say the tests have served that purpose well, but other purposes they haven’t served so well.


20 posted on 01/27/2022 1:19:31 PM PST by Will88 (The only people opposing voter ID are those benefiting from voter fraud.)
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