Posted on 01/23/2022 4:10:35 PM PST by TigerClaws
It all depends on whether or not the Ukraine via Burisma has enough dirt on Hunter and his old man to blackmail them.
Anyone up to a reread of John Hackett’s The Third World War. The war, planned by the SU, begins after an action between US Marines sent to a destabilizing Yugoslavia after Tito’s death, and Soviet troops making an incursion into that country. Hackett never says if it’s a small incursion. Just a suggestion.
Your arguments so far:
* Claimed no one separated Ukrainians from Russians in 1920 when they arrived at Ellis Island - Proved you wrong by pointing to the US census.
* You pushed that date back to 1900. - Still wrong, as again demonstrated by the census.
Now you push that back saying the separation was only invented in the 19th century. The truth is back then it was a non-issue as Ukraine and Russia were not the same country and hadn’t been for centuries.
Here is a question: how many years before 1800 were Kiev and Moscow/Novgorod ruled by the same person? I think the answer will surprise you.
Agree …. Prayers the Petri dish cannot hold God fearing people
In short, you are grasping for straws.
I explained the mistake regarding the first date. It was because you wrote it earlier. It is pretty much obvious because there was already Ukrainian SSR in 1920s.
The rest of your points is illiteral nonsense, no offense.
I perfectly explained what Ruthenia was, originally a Hungarian term regarding people living East of them in Carpathia and beyond.
The term resurfaced in the 19th century to call Galicians and Carpathians. Funnily, after Ukraine was first established as SSR these territories weren’t originally included. Stalin only added them along with Galicia in 1939.
Ruthenia is actually a sort of geographic name based on all of the above, meaning the land on border between Hungary and Ukraine, for long time Austro-Hungarian, currently Ukrainian. The place is predominately Russian and Hungarian-speaking, and every other person holds a Hungarian passport. The place is particularly separatist on top of that and don’t want to be a part of Ukraine, but no noise on that from politicians guess why?
To put the birth place of the Ukrainian culture into Ruthenia is quite stupid in light of that.
Let’s be honest, all things Ukrainian are originally associated with Zaporozhean Cossacks. That’s a tiny territory South of Kiev again and nothing in common with Ruthenia in whatever meaning, except as of common term for East Slavs.
As for who ruled Kiev and Moscow before 1800s it is perfectly irrelevant. I understand that pour education system you are so proud of has failed to teahh you what feudal fragmentation is. Do yourself a favor and read something on this.
You are aware that parts of Ukraine was controlled by Austro-Hungary at that point? It makes perfect sense to say that some Ukrainians lived in that Empire while most lived in the Russian Empire.
You original quote:
“Review the forms filled by people from the area who immigrated to the US in the early 1900s. There was no such thing as Ukrainian at the time.”
This claim is absolutely wrong, and I have proven it as so. Plenty of folk checked off Ruthenian for their language, which was what Americans referred to as Ukrainian.
For the final death blow to your original claim. Here is a note from the 1930 census when Ukrainian was added:
“Ukrainian has been differentiated from Ruthenian although the distinction is more a matter of country of birth than of language.”
https://www2.census.gov/prod2/decennial/documents/16440598v2ch08.pdf
There you have it. Your 1939 map shows the post-independence situation. Ukrainian had become the name used for folk from Ukraine while Ruthenian remained in use for the small Ukrainian speaking population across the border.
Oh. Silly me. Yeah, Obama is in charge.
BS, and you perfectly realize it at this point.
I can’t exclude that “their Ruthenians” coming from the tiny strip on Austrian side of the mountains identified as Ruthenians. The people from the other side or mainland Ukraine didn’t know or care what the Austrians called their Slavs and by extension them. They were foreigners to each other until Stalin incorporated geographic Ruthenia into Ukraine. There is little to no Ruthenian influence in Ukraine right now. The people of the area are getting Hungarian passports and dream for Ukraine to fall apart to join Hungary.
Putin is not going to invade the Ukraine and the US military is not going to war over it. Its not going to happen.
Probably not. This is mostly a show from our end to distract people from the COVID-19 debacle.
Unless somebody on our side makes some damn-fool mistake. Which is still quite possible.
The Cabal does not mind too much if the US military gets humbled in a defeat and retreat as long as the body count is not too high. They seem to believe they can actually control such things, like a "minor incursion" from an opposition force and talk their way out of consequences.
Afghanistan is the most recent worked example.
I am not entirely convinced that Putin will take his troops and go home, but I am fairly certain that we will not use our troops to oppose a Russian annexation of the eastern Ukraine. At most, they will get assigned to embassy protection duties, with strict instructions to avoid obstructing Russian troops.
And all that "lethal equipment" we are sending over to Ukraine will be abandoned. Just like Afghanistan.
Just asking for a friend. Do they ‘weigh’ his depends like in a ‘before and after’ scenario?
The ultimate repudiation of this first year as a fake President is coming in November. He’ll do anything to detract from that so he can lay the blame for the fiasco on anyone but himself.
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