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US airlines warn of impending 5G flight disruption
BBC News ^ | January 18, 2022

Posted on 01/18/2022 8:27:42 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

The 10 biggest US airlines have warned that the impending switch-on of 5G mobile phone services will cause "major disruption" to flights.

They said the start of Verizon and AT&T 5G mobile phone services, planned for Wednesday, would cause a "completely avoidable economic calamity".

Airlines fear C-band 5G signals will disrupt planes' navigation systems, particularly those used in bad weather.

The warning was issued in a letter sent to US aviation authorities.

The chief executives of American Airlines, Delta Air Lines and United Airlines were joined by others in saying: "Immediate intervention is needed to avoid significant operational disruption to air passengers, shippers, supply chain and delivery of needed medical supplies", including vaccine distribution.

The BBC has seen the letter outlining their urgent concerns.

It was sent to Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg, as well as the head of the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), the chair of the Federal Communications Commission and the director of the National Economic Council.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 5g; airlines; cellular; phone
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1 posted on 01/18/2022 8:27:42 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Jeez… has this been tested in real world situations?


2 posted on 01/18/2022 8:31:24 AM PST by House Atreides
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I believe South Korea is farthest ahead in 5G usage, and many large cities and regions in China as well

How are they managing this problem?


3 posted on 01/18/2022 8:33:09 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Biden administration getting their “trumps fault” excuses all lined up


4 posted on 01/18/2022 8:35:24 AM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans ( )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; Daffynition
Airlines fear C-band 5G signals will disrupt planes' navigation systems, particularly those used in bad weather.

The Bermuda Triangle. Don't take off without it!

5 posted on 01/18/2022 8:35:30 AM PST by Ezekiel ("Come fly with US". Ingenuity -- because the Son of David begins with Mars.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This has been an ongoing concern for decades now following democrat admins since klinton trying to sell off spectrum for more revenue (and obviously kickbacks). Ligado was the last one I was aware of. 5G bands reside near GPS bands and 5G activity raises the noise floor to a point where GPS reception is at risk.


6 posted on 01/18/2022 8:36:04 AM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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1/19

hmmm.   inverted 911   !

7 posted on 01/18/2022 8:37:27 AM PST by rx (Truth will out!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I say this is all B.S. The industry wants this as it puts 5G in the forefront. Free publicity for selling new 5G phones.

Nothing to see here.


8 posted on 01/18/2022 8:40:09 AM PST by George from New England
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C-band 5G signals will disrupt planes’ navigation systems,

How come Rickey ?.


9 posted on 01/18/2022 8:40:21 AM PST by Vaduz ( )
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To: Ezekiel

If 5G phone signals can disrupt airline navigation system then that sounds like a huge flaw in the airline navigation system, and should be corrected. Otherwise, airlines would need to confiscate all passengers’ electronic devices on boarding. Oops, don’t want to give them any ideas...


10 posted on 01/18/2022 8:40:32 AM PST by throwthebumsout
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To: George from New England

I am inclined to agree. Y2K variant.


11 posted on 01/18/2022 8:41:23 AM PST by MustKnowHistory
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Seems more than a little unlikely, but with Biden in charge... who knows. meanwhile... New Amazon Luna game controllers dispense money from cash machines using Russian App.


12 posted on 01/18/2022 8:43:22 AM PST by fireman15
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“Otherwise, airlines would need to confiscate all passengers’ electronic devices on boarding. “

Its the power at the ground cell towers nearby an airport at concern.

None of this equipment would have been authorized by the FCC if there was any problem.


13 posted on 01/18/2022 8:43:45 AM PST by George from New England
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

5G is different in different countries and different using different equipment. Its not one standard everywhere in the world. I assume that hospitals, military, and aviation are all areas where some of their equipment was able to exist outside of the actual laws. And now that the space is being used by cell phones it may cause some older or nonconforming equipment to not work correctly. 5G is here. They can’t stop it. But Boeing and airlines should run some test flights. Remember how they told you to turn off all your phones for the entire flight. Ridiculous. But they will probably try to do that again.


14 posted on 01/18/2022 8:46:00 AM PST by poinq
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Ahh, what’s worst that could happen?


15 posted on 01/18/2022 8:48:23 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Do I hear Flight 800 echoes ?


16 posted on 01/18/2022 8:49:00 AM PST by George from New England
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
It was sent to Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg

No worries, Pete will get right on it! /S

Glad I don't fly anymore..

17 posted on 01/18/2022 8:49:04 AM PST by Envisioning (Carry safe, always carry, everyday, everywhere.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Considering how intrusive TSA is in violation of 4th Amendment, I’m not sure I care.


18 posted on 01/18/2022 8:49:44 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Statistics don't matter when they happen to you.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

And we should get another free Bailout. (Even though it’s the economy) And unemployment for 36 weeks.
Thanks again!


19 posted on 01/18/2022 8:50:07 AM PST by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18)
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There is a lot of confusion about 5G. What is in use now is low and mid-band 5G frequencies. C-Band is the high band and is much faster.
The third bucket of spectrum where wireless operators are deploying 5G is in the millimeter wave spectrum. This is very high on the spectrum chart in the 24 GHz band and higher. The GSMA recommends that operators support millimeter wave spectrum in the 26 GHz, 40 GHz, 50 GHz and 66 GHz bands for mobile services. However, the association also notes that spectrum in the 26 GHz and 28 GHz already have strong momentum from operators and added that these bands are adjacent and therefore make it easier for handsets to support.

Besides its low-band 5G offering, AT&T also has a high-band 5G, which it’s calling 5G+. This is deployed in the company’s 36 GHz band millimeter wave spectrum and it offers extra speed and capacity and is intended for high-traffic areas like campuses and arenas. AT&T’s 5G+ is available in parts of 23 cities and the company is making it available to only enterprises.

Likewise, T-Mobile also has deployed 5G in six markets using millimeter wave that supplements its 600 MHz 5G network. The company has said it is using 39 GHz spectrum in its Las Vegas market and 28 GHz spectrum in the other five markets.

Meanwhile Verizon is currently only offering 5G using millimeter wave spectrum. The company deployed its 5G service in 31 cities so far and is also using spectrum in the 28 GHz and 39 GHz bands.
https://www.nokia.com/networks/insights/spectrum-bands-5g-world/


20 posted on 01/18/2022 8:52:27 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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