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Lawmakers demand new heat regulations following deadly Bronx fire
nypost.com ^ | 1/17/22 | Steven Vago/Nolan Hicks

Posted on 01/18/2022 6:04:23 AM PST by AbolishCSEU

Top New York politicians demanded Monday that Congress impose new regulations on privately-run housing complexes that receive federal subsidies in the aftermath of the horrific Bronx housing tower fire that left 17 people dead — including eight children.

The new rule would require landlords to install temperature monitors in buildings where tenants receive housing vouchers to ensure that apartments are receiving the required amounts of heat.

FDNY officials believe the initial cause of the deadly fire was a space heater in a third-floor apartment at the high-rise at 333 East 181 Street — and several malfunctioning self-closing doors allowed the deadly smoke to quickly fill the building.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: ny; regulations; tenants
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NYS proposing, in light of the downstate apt fire (tenants using space heaters close to combustibles) that temperature monitors be installed as a requirement when (for now) housing subsidized tenants.

I write "for now" because I'm sure it will be mandated statewide with or without subsidization. The theory is that the poooooooor tenants are living in ice cold apts because the eeeeeevvvviiiiiil landlords aren't fixing the heat.

I can tell you from my own experience and from having worked in the Section 8 dept of a mid-sized city that most urbanites can NEVER have the apt too warm. When the temp outside dropped below 65, we would get inundated with "no heat" calls. At which point we had to state that:

1. 72 is "room temperature" not 85

2. just because you don't hear the furnace running, doesn't mean it is broken. there is such thing as a thermostat and cycling.

Just recently, I rented to a tenant from the city and she, despite having the boiler system at full crank, was using space heaters. It had to be at least 85 degrees F in there. Hubby was literally sweating.

Same tenants refuse to put on a sweater and go around in shorts as though it were summer out

1 posted on 01/18/2022 6:04:23 AM PST by AbolishCSEU
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To: AbolishCSEU

Space heater control. First rule: Don’t be a dumbass.


2 posted on 01/18/2022 6:10:46 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Buck Foe Jiden!)
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To: Eleutheria5

But with no new Natural gas hookups space heaters will be the main source of heat from now on. What bloody idiots NY politicians are…


3 posted on 01/18/2022 6:17:48 AM PST by Shady (The #JihadJunta is now a Dictatorship, there are no more “laws..”)
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To: Eleutheria5

Don’t use extension cords with space heaters.


4 posted on 01/18/2022 6:20:05 AM PST by Graybeard58 (The China virus doesn't scare me, Venezuelaism does.)
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To: AbolishCSEU

“””Top New York politicians demanded Monday that Congress impose new regulations”””


And why should other states be burdened with some new Federal Regulations just because the Fire Marshalls in New York are incompetent?????

Fix your own problems NEW YORK and quit bothering the rest of us.


5 posted on 01/18/2022 6:21:01 AM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: Graybeard58

Keep paper and clothes away from them. Never put wet clothes on top of one to dry. Only buy space heaters with pendulum shut-offs.


6 posted on 01/18/2022 6:21:38 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Buck Foe Jiden!)
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To: AbolishCSEU

the doors didn’t “malfunction”, they were proped open by the tenants!


7 posted on 01/18/2022 6:21:46 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: Shady

Portable? WTF.


8 posted on 01/18/2022 6:22:34 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Buck Foe Jiden!)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

BINGO! again, most low-income tenants have little regard to safety and are geared toward convenience. Live for today attitude is quite prevalent.


9 posted on 01/18/2022 6:23:22 AM PST by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportionate to mother's actual parenting of children)
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To: Shady

Oh. Misunderstood. What ever happened to steam radiators?


10 posted on 01/18/2022 6:24:08 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Buck Foe Jiden!)
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To: Presbyterian Reporter
That’s exactly right. There’s something really pathetic when you see state and local politicians demand action from Congress on something they are perfectly capable of dealing with on their own.

Let’s be honest here … New York (city and state) is governed by a bunch of effing losers.

11 posted on 01/18/2022 6:27:40 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("All lies and jest; still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.")
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I keep reading that the doors “malfunctioned” does that mean the closing device can’t be manually overridden by simply pushing on the door to close it? Or was the tenet too fook’n stupid to know to close the door.

I suspect the latter.


12 posted on 01/18/2022 6:28:28 AM PST by technically right
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To: Eleutheria5

What would a temperature monitor do, which smoke alarms already accomplish? Not NY but it is standard to have smoke alarms in every room. The batteries are always expired because the poor would rather have take out.


13 posted on 01/18/2022 6:30:19 AM PST by SteelPSUGOP
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To: Eleutheria5

Boilers are fueled by Natural Gas, which NY has deemed “OrangeManBad...”


14 posted on 01/18/2022 6:36:50 AM PST by Shady (The #JihadJunta is now a Dictatorship, there are no more “laws..”)
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To: AbolishCSEU

They also like to sleep with open windows.


15 posted on 01/18/2022 6:43:34 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Shady

I would say WTF, but I already know WTF it is. Leftards stupid, dangerous psychos.


16 posted on 01/18/2022 8:27:33 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Buck Foe Jiden!)
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To: SteelPSUGOP

The damned things are broken, because they go off over a cigarette or a pot of burnt spaghetti, and people smack them until they STFU.


17 posted on 01/18/2022 8:29:12 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Buck Foe Jiden!)
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To: ridesthemiles

No AC during the summer, you put a box fan in the window.


18 posted on 01/18/2022 8:31:49 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Buck Foe Jiden!)
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To: SteelPSUGOP
What would a temperature monitor do, which smoke alarms already accomplish?

No, no. The temp sensors are not for the heat of a fire. They are to monitor room temperature so that the evil landlord must provide enough heat.

19 posted on 01/18/2022 8:33:41 AM PST by CurlyDave
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To: AbolishCSEU

My guess is that such “temperature monitors” are really meant for less benign control purposes, but the paid off pols are taking advantage of this tragedy to get the proverbial camel’s nose in the tenement tent.


20 posted on 01/18/2022 8:34:50 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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