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This is anti-environment...

This is anti-consumer...

This is anti-business....

This is anti-common sense.

Imagine is ATT were allowed to do this back in the 80's?

There would have been even fewer competition and innovation

1 posted on 01/12/2022 10:18:30 AM PST by Vendome
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Is this retro active? I’m consulting with sunrun for a new install, and the guy says if I sign before this takes effect I’m good and it doesn’t effect me. Anyone know?


2 posted on 01/12/2022 10:24:23 AM PST by Pocketdoor
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If people want rooftop solar, and are willing to pay for it themselves, I’m all for it. If one cares about encouraging renewables, why make people pay for the privilege? Really, California has lost the plot.


3 posted on 01/12/2022 10:24:41 AM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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Interesting in that, IIRC, California law says all new construction must have solar.


4 posted on 01/12/2022 10:27:59 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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Worse than that...it’s bait and switch! Public hearing today at 3PM local.


8 posted on 01/12/2022 10:31:38 AM PST by Rowdyone (Vigilence)
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What behaviors liberal government considers positive and encourages with tax money today

Become the problem behaviors liberal government punishes with new taxes tomorrow


12 posted on 01/12/2022 10:38:53 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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All those suckers who bought those panels are now going to start paying more and more and more. Just like the electric cars about to get charged by the mile.

CA taxes everything on an ever-increasing scale. So glad I’m out of there.


13 posted on 01/12/2022 10:40:47 AM PST by Jonny7797
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Do the power companies issue 1099s for the power purchased from consumers?

Actually, there should be hefty fees associated with solar because of the environmental impact of disposal.


14 posted on 01/12/2022 10:54:44 AM PST by PAR35
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This is actually sane. (surprise for CA)
The utilities has to pay for the net (cost a lot to build an maintain) as well as the distribution.
I am not sure about Ca, but here in AZ that was already implemented. Basically homeowners used to get paid retail for the power they delivered to the utility. Now they get paid wholesale - just like the power plants do.
Basically just reduced the subsidies for the solar.
Should be done.
It was OK in the beginning, when there were few installations, now, utilities cannot afford to subsidize these people any more. .


17 posted on 01/12/2022 11:03:30 AM PST by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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Human: You bit me.

Snake: You knew what I was from the get-go.


18 posted on 01/12/2022 11:08:33 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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Eh. It was a given that no financial losses would be tolerated for the power companies.


19 posted on 01/12/2022 11:10:50 AM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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This crap has been rolled out in other countries. Consumers spent their money for roof top solar and sold back the power. The government subsequently claimed ownership of the solar panels and electricity produced. No mention of getting "free use" of the rooftop of the homeowner.

Many rooftop solar installations have no local battery. They simply drive power back into the grid during daylight hours with a proportional "backward spin" of the local meter being the "economic battery". The government and utilities want to shortchange these solar energy investors from making a return on their investment. Frankly, if it is legislated into being a poor ROI (will it cease to function before the money saved exceeds the cost of acquisition/cost of operation), that amounts to a "taking" without compensation. Bring on the attorneys. Remove the panels and sell for salvage.

20 posted on 01/12/2022 11:11:15 AM PST by Myrddin
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Also there would be a "grid participation charge" of $8 per kilowatt on the solar systems of residential customers

Journalism at its best!

21 posted on 01/12/2022 11:21:46 AM PST by eldoradude (Add water to a journalist and you get instant sh*t)
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I’ll only go for an off-grid system.

I don’t want to pay twice for electricity.

If this cause economic grid collapse, so be it.


22 posted on 01/12/2022 11:23:51 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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If it sounds too good to be true it usually is.


23 posted on 01/12/2022 11:27:10 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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Planning for economic sustainability is not a Democratic strongpoint.


28 posted on 01/12/2022 11:36:29 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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Solar panels on the roof are like a Gucci handbag on the end of an arm - a fashion statement.


29 posted on 01/12/2022 11:38:34 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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As well as its electric vehicles, Tesla also has a solar energy business called Tesla Energy that sells solar panels. Its flagship product is the Solar Roof, consisting of solar-energy-producing shingles.
31 posted on 01/12/2022 11:40:38 AM PST by tlozo
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https://www.nrel.gov/state-local-tribal/basics-net-metering.html


33 posted on 01/12/2022 11:43:47 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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If PGE is going to resell that solar electricity for daytime electric vehicle charging (the optimal solution), it should pay the rooftop generator owners a reasonable share of the charges billed to the owners of the cars recharged.

PGE should not be able to claim that a mere 1kwh of electricity from Southern California Alternative Merchants at 3 cents/kwh justifies paying the rooftop owners the same 3 cents/kwh for many megawatts worth of car charging electricity billed to the car owners at 14 cents/kwh.


37 posted on 01/12/2022 11:54:54 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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In my part of Florida the outside temperature varies from about 72 to 91 degrees in summer.

I like the temperature inside to be about 81 degrees in the day and a few degrees cooler at night.

My air conditioning load is not heavy.


41 posted on 01/12/2022 12:14:04 PM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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