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Vaccinated hospital patients outpace the unvaccinated, but it doesn't mean the shots don't work: experts-(CAN)
https://calgary.ctvnews.ca ^ | Jan. 6, 2022 | Timm Bruch

Posted on 01/10/2022 6:07:36 AM PST by RomanSoldier19

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To: JonPreston

Our government is waaay too BIG.


21 posted on 01/10/2022 6:34:13 AM PST by 1Old Pro (Let's make crime illegal again!)
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To: RomanSoldier19

If they are highly vaccinated, let’s say 90%, there are 9 opportunities for vaccinated to be hospitalized to 1 opportunity for unvaccinated to become hospitalized. It makes sense there are more vaccinated in Hospitals.

If your perspective is the vaccine should stop transmission, then this data proves that isn’t the case.

If your perspective is the vaccine prevents serious illness, then this article could be true. Not enough info here to determine.

As Omicron increasingly becomes the dominant strain, this data will change dramatically and is in fact a variable not accounted for here.


22 posted on 01/10/2022 6:34:30 AM PST by IamConservative (I was nervous like the third chimp in line for the Ark after the rain started.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Stop calling it a vaccine. It’s not.


23 posted on 01/10/2022 6:37:23 AM PST by ConservativeInPA ("Goats are like mushrooms. Because if you shoot a duck, I'm afraid of toasters." - Joe Biden)
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To: RomanSoldier19

I suspect the vaccines the FDA approved were most effective at preventing hospitalization and death.

However, the vaccines the FDA approved are very poor at blocking transmission.

I think the Covid nasal vaccines should be more closely examined for use as boosters to round out (more mucosal IgA [I believe]) vaccine protection.


24 posted on 01/10/2022 6:37:42 AM PST by Brian Griffin ( )
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To: IamConservative

If your perspective is the vaccine prevents serious illness, then this article could be true. Not enough info here to determine.
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The Ontario data is far more complete and revealing... plus they provide raw data so you can crunch your own numbers.

As discussed on a posting here last night, based on Ontario’s numbers from yesterday, a person who has had at least one shot is 2.2 x as likely to be a ‘covid case’ than a person who has never had a shot. https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data


25 posted on 01/10/2022 6:39:56 AM PST by hecticskeptic
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To: CondoleezzaProtege; GOPsterinMA

SCIENCE! (tm)


26 posted on 01/10/2022 6:47:31 AM PST by KC_Lion
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To: RomanSoldier19

Everybody I know, who got the virus in last half a year, has been fully vaccinated!
The vaccines obviously do not work as advertised. Either loosing potency or useless for the new variants?
As a matter of fact, viruses do that all the time.
Our geniuses - Faucci and Biden and the rest of the team should know that and make account for that.
But they have been asleep on the wheel since Biden took over.


27 posted on 01/10/2022 6:49:17 AM PST by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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To: AZJeep

Instead of the promised genial Biden plan for total eradication of the virus, we have right now the worst epidemic, ever.


28 posted on 01/10/2022 6:52:00 AM PST by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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To: AZJeep

Everybody has to drink the magick cool-aid for it to work. Us not drinking the cool-aid is keeping it from working for those who have...


29 posted on 01/10/2022 7:19:33 AM PST by Little Ray (Civilization runs on a narrow margin. What sustains it is not magic, but hard work. )
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To: RomanSoldier19

30 posted on 01/10/2022 7:20:56 AM PST by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper)
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To: Brian Griffin
I suspect the vaccines the FDA approved were most effective at preventing hospitalization and death.

THIS article states, “Vaccinated hospital patients outpace the unvaccinated”. Are you suggesting the vaccines prevent hospitalization and death by causing everyone to be hospitalized?
31 posted on 01/10/2022 7:21:49 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: JonPreston

The Adelphia head’s arrest was the last really satisfying perp walk I can remember seeing in this country.

Gotta get the perp’s head squarely in your mitt and **JAM** it right down and into the backseat of the squad car. With authority!


32 posted on 01/10/2022 7:22:33 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: ConservativeInPA

Actually, in anticipation of this reality that the vax is not a vaccine; the CDC officially change the definition of the word vaccine so that something which is not, IS.

Got that?

Typical commie trash BS, if countered by facts and truth; do a back room redefinition of the terms and then argue from that false state.

WHO/CDC/Pharm always knew that mRNA tech does not convey immunity. It does provide protection to the jabbed, but absolutely nothing for society. But, that is fantastic! It means you can tout it as a life-saver (even if it isn’t) but still insist that you get to sell jabs to every human on earth — forever.
All you have to do is brainwash the mindless NPC’s who watch Sh**ahosws like CNN to accept whatever you say — and run that to the SCOTUS for a golden stamp.


33 posted on 01/10/2022 7:25:40 AM PST by bobbo666 (Baizuo, WuhanFlu)
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To: RomanSoldier19

34 posted on 01/10/2022 7:26:01 AM PST by JesusIsLord
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To: RomanSoldier19

A company’s beauty products make most of their customers look uglier, but that doesn’t mean their products don’t work.


35 posted on 01/10/2022 7:43:56 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Little Ray

Everybody has to drink the magick cool-aid for it to work.

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This seems to be collapsing under the new evidence. By now, it does not seem the vaccine has any effect any more. Little positive here, little negative there - definitely not too much of a help!
By now, there should stop fooling with the masks and vaccines and come with some effective treatment, maybe OTC!
Whatever - bleach, hydroxychinin, ivermectin or yabadabadoo, something should be available to the sick by now. But they totally ignored the developments of effective treatments, believing that the vaccines will solve the problem.
It is obvious by now that they have not!!!


36 posted on 01/10/2022 8:04:34 AM PST by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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To: AZJeep

I am just going by behavior these days.
If the notavax worked they wouldn’t need coercion.
But the behavior of the state actors seems to indicate that something else is going on here. So I will not comply.


37 posted on 01/10/2022 8:09:28 AM PST by Little Ray (Civilization runs on a narrow margin. What sustains it is not magic, but hard work. )
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To: canuck_conservative

* fewer

Fewer than 500 people...


38 posted on 01/10/2022 8:11:14 AM PST by Mr.Unique (My boss wants me to sign up for a 401K. No way I'm running that far! )
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To: cuban leaf

It’s all about wording. It doesn’t mean they don’t work. Rather it is evidence that they don’t work.
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It’s not even evidence that they don’t work. One reason is that the people who were most likely to get vaccinated first were the aged with all sorts of comorbidities and people with compromised immune systems — the very people who are likely to die in the hospital from other causes after a positive test that would be asymptomatic for a healthy person.


39 posted on 01/10/2022 8:12:12 AM PST by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: RomanSoldier19
By that standard, about 24 unvaccinated people per 100,000 are in an Alberta hospital.

That rate drops to fewer than eight after just one shot.

What about this doesn't make sense? It is the math? Or do you just think they are lying? Or something else?

40 posted on 01/10/2022 8:17:31 AM PST by Mr.Unique (My boss wants me to sign up for a 401K. No way I'm running that far! )
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