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To: rovenstinez

I agree 100%

Those people could EASILY hire a gay friendly photographer so too bad if this photographer was out sick or whose fee for a “ unique “ wedding was 500 thousand dollars!


8 posted on 01/09/2022 5:58:54 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (The 2020 election Trump victory determines the fate f America and Freedom.)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

I’m guessing many of these gay couples purposefully seek out Christians, leave out details, like that the person that orders the service is gay and then complains after the cake maker, photographer etc tries to refuse.

The shock game entertains them much like it does for teenagers and then they get to fight the patriarchy.


12 posted on 01/09/2022 6:04:42 PM PST by Pollard (PureBlood -- youtube.com/watch?v=VXm0fkDituE)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

When the wedding cake controversy was going on, I wondered why the gay people didn’t go to bakeries run by Muslims, and ask THEM to do same-sex wedding cakes; and I wondered how that would go down in the courts if the Muslim bakery objected.

On the other hand, if I were a baker or photographer, I’d consider baking and photography to be what I was selling - not my personal beliefs.

I’d object to rendering some blatantly obscene image; but I wouldn’t have a problem with anything dignified.


34 posted on 01/09/2022 7:51:28 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
I am not an attorney so I am not sure this is legal.

If you are a Christian and this is sincerely against your faith, why not form a co-op with Christian church(s) that do not recognize gay marriage. For nonmember's, or people who are not members of the churches involved, the co-op accepts the work, obtains the details of what the customers want and assigns a provider. Nonmembers pay a fee and the co-op has the option to either assign a member provider or sub contracts to outside providers. It is also possible that within the co-op, there is a provider that has no issue with providing gay services. However, to be member provider or just a member, you have to affiliate with a church.

The co-op has the contracts with other service providers who pay a small service fee for the referrals. The co-op collects a processing fee for referrals, membership fees and a nonmember's fee. Those fees are paid out in shares quarterly to co-op providers. If you are gay and you want a specific photographer just to create a court case. Sorry, the co-op assigns the photographers or subcontracts the work. You are hiring the co-op not a specific provider in the co-op. No doubt some gay couple would hide their intent, hire a the co-op and then change the requested service from a standard wedding cake to a gay pride one. The provider then refers the customer back to the co-op offices because they cannot make changes to the requested service. The co-op then refers the request to a different provider due to the changes made outside the signed agreement. That's the legal aspect I am not sure of.

It could be tough because you would not have off the street customers coming directly into your businesses. They have to go through the co-op offices. The co-op then screens the work requested either accepts the work in house or subcontracts it based on an agreement the purchasers signs. If a cooperative builds a reputation for quality service people will use the service. One stop for wedding photographers, bakers or a handyman.

I am sure there could be legal challenges, but I remember reading about a denial of service that was legal because the plaintiffs were not members of the cooperative. I just do not recall the details. Until sanity prevails this may be (or not) a course of action.

101 posted on 01/14/2022 3:38:22 PM PST by OldGoatCPO (No Caitiff Choir of Angels will sing for me)
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