Posted on 01/03/2022 7:43:15 AM PST by SJackson
My late wife’s kin has lots of provable Cherokee in their background.
The family claim that I had Cherokee in my background proved to be wishful thinking. that person was a German-Italian orphan from Chicago.
Yeah, that is my families oral history as well. Funny thing is that when my sister actually put the work into doing a genealogy trace, no Indians showed up.
Did find a family member who fought in the Revolutionary War but spent most of his time on a prison ship.
Thanks for the Greenfield ping.
Ancestory DNA testing shows I have 8% Native American from my father, He probably had 16 % but did not have dna testing at that time in his life. He always knew his mother was part Nanimo (Vancouver Island reservation) but when he tried to prove it (to garner some special fishing rights) he was unable to. His mom looked very indian, but passed as white and once she married and moved to the US, at age 16, she never put Native American on any records. It was common to avoid discrimination by doing this.
One time in Washington state on business a person came up to me and asked if I was part indian. I was surprised but also proud that I had some indian resemblence.
My Canadian great-grandfather was Métis, with some Ojibwa blood mixed in with the French and Scottish. After the failed Métis “rebellion”, he picked up his family and moved south into Minnesota and Wisconsin.
I’ve never claimed the ancestry to use it to get a position in a law school or for any other benefit or recognition.
In the 90s I used to drive through the Poospatuck reservation in Mastic, LI, NY to by smokes. It was like driving through west Harlem without the tenements.
My ancestors on both sides have been traced back 1640 when they settled in Massachusetts. This was over 130 years before the United States was declared a nation. Does that make me a Native American?
Lots of us would love to collect our share on the Irish Potato famine pity party - and how awful the poor Irish refugees were treated in the United States... but that TIME HAS PASSED.
Irish would be jerks - and a poor excuses for citizens - if they were allowed to milk a terror for personal gain - a terror they never experienced.
Should be the same for all groups... I'm guessing 90 years tops from the time of true victimization.
Past that and it's taking the system and damaging innocent people who had no part in the victimization. In short - the point where 'the victims' transition and become the 'new thugs'...
Why not pretend to be Indian? Whites are hated, reviled, vilified, condemned and blamed for all the evils in the world. Why not join a group that gets special privileges and gain instant moral superiority?
If you’re born here you are native to America, hence Native American.
My family is a mix of AniYunWiya and Scots/Irish....
In other words, we are drunk Indians...
Reminds me of the Tonto Kowalski joke.
I have travelled (in the US - I’m too scared to go anywhere else except maybe Canada) quite a bit. Even moreso I’ve studied history alot so it’s doubly perplexing. Though I’d like to have a good summary history of Indians in NA. Not the PC kind, but the real kind.
Bingo. One the the 2 reasons I will never use that nomenclature.
Well, I was just going by your comment:
“...It just never seemed anywhere, outside maybe my husbands home in central PA, that there was much of anything to look at...”
Maybe it just doesn’t take a lot to interest me, but I’ve found a great deal of things to look at, things to do, and places that I’ll always remember from my travels in the USA, not to mention military time in other parts of the world...
Actually the Irish are the original pity-party group in the US. Indeed they suffered to some extent due to British rule. Meanwhile, they ran gangs and New York City itself, Boss Tweed and Tammany Hall, and have the nerve to claim they were so oppressed. Nonsense, all of it. Nevermind the entertainment over the decades (not simply now - much earlier) extolling them as if they’re the greatest bunch ever, and getting a holiday here.
Just like the black millionaires playing a child’s game claiming victimhood - in the here and now.
But yeah, I get your point. But that’s a big peeve of mine.
My Mother told me I was part gypsy and part Indian. She also told me that my father was Man A but I was partially raised by Man B. I have nearly black hair and green eyes.
FrogDad has blue eyes and strawberry blond head hair with red body hair. Spicy food always breaks him out in a sweat. I’ve always referred to him as my “Nordic God”.
So a couple of years ago we did an Ancestry test.
ALL of my ancestry is from Ireland, England and Norway. My father was Man C. :p
FrogDad’s ancestry is from Germany and England.
LOL. I’m more Nordic than he is! This was interesting stuff.
Well, I was specifically referring to Indian sites. Those that actually have some “tourist” value because they’re obvious enough.
I’m the kind that picks at every tiny bit of wreckage (maybe it really was exactly that!) and beer cans and wonders what this site was. Old stonework and pieces of fence hidden in the woods. Forensics. Nevermind my devotion to graveyards - which also drew me to Ft. Shantok. New England is great for ancient, readable graveyards.
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