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Putin tells West to ‘immediately’ meet Russia’s demands on Ukraine
https://www.pressherald.com ^ | 12/23/2021 | BY VLADIMIR ISACHENKOVASSOCIATED PRESS

Posted on 12/23/2021 10:53:50 AM PST by RomanSoldier19

The Russian leader welcomed talks with the U.S. that are set to start in Geneva next month as a “positive” move, but warned that Moscow expects the discussion to produce quick results.

Russian President Vladimir Putin urged the West on Thursday to “immediately” meet Russia’s demand for security guarantees precluding NATO’s expansion to Ukraine, saying the U.S. is “on the threshold of our home.”

Speaking during a marathon annual news conference, the Russian leader welcomed talks with the U.S. that are set to start in Geneva next month as a “positive” move, but warned that Moscow expects the discussion to produce quick results.

“We have clearly and precisely let them know that any further NATO expansion eastward is unacceptable,” Putin said.

APTOPIX Russia Putin Russian President Vladimir Putin gestures while speaking during his annual news conference in Moscow, Russia, Thursday, Dec. 23, 2021. AP Photo/Alexander Zemlianichenko

Last week, Moscow submitted draft security documents demanding that NATO deny membership to Ukraine and other former Soviet countries and roll back the alliance’s military deployments in Central and Eastern Europe. A key principle of the alliance is that membership is open to any qualifying country.

“Is it us who are putting missiles near the U.S. borders?” Putin said angrily. “No, it’s the U.S. who came to our home with its missiles, they are already on the threshold of our home. Is it some excessive demand not to place any strike weapons systems near our home?”

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To: alternatives?

With our presence now gone from Afghanistan, and China taking over complete control using all of our former airbases and other installations, and with their presence and influence growing in the Mideast and Africa; I suspect China is feeling emboldened and work to diminish Russian influence throughout.

I agree with you and I think that Russia, NATO and the US may well will be pardners, allies, within ten years.


21 posted on 12/23/2021 11:52:21 AM PST by elpadre ( ying them.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

This is posturing by Putin so that he can justify an attack on the Ukraine. He knows perfectly well that NATO will not invite the Ukraine to join. He also knows that NATO can not state this outright, uncertainty is key to deterrence.

Putin needs to generate a threat to Russia, the country is stagnating and the oligarchy he sits atop is bleeding Russia dry. Defeating a “foreign threat” and reclaiming parts of Ukraine for Russia will boost his prestige inside Russia, and help neuter his opponents.


22 posted on 12/23/2021 12:04:38 PM PST by drop 50 and fire for effect ("Work relentlessly, accomplish much, remain in the background, and be more than you seem.")
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To: dfwgator

Putin is correct when he says that Eastern Ukraine is Russian. The people speak Russian, not Ukrainian, and identify as Russian.


23 posted on 12/23/2021 12:05:19 PM PST by rexthecat
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To: elpadre

The European content was the bloodiest in world history. The only peace was from 1945-1990. Thank the US. Do we owe it to them to stop it for happening again? You tell me because they’re collectively unaware of the Muslim/Chicom motives.


24 posted on 12/23/2021 12:13:34 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: PGR88

It sounds like Putin is giving an ultimatum to the US and NATO. This means he isn’t bluffing. He will move on Ukraine in 2022. The way I see it is: (so my Ouija Board Says) 1. Act of terrorism done by “Ukrainian Nazis.” 2. Gas shuts off from Russia to Ukraine. 3. Power grid in Ukraine knocked out by EMF Pulse. 4. News blackout over all the area as tanks roll in to Novo Russia. 5. Ukrainian Army folds up. 6. Government flees to Poland. as a Pro-Russian Government put in until free elections can be held (if ever). 7. Putin will give a Victory Parade and a party in Moscow. 8. Biden will go to UN and give a speech and place sanctions of Russia as China scoops up Taiwan.


25 posted on 12/23/2021 12:28:43 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade ( ALWAYS GO FORWARD AND NEVER GO BACK.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Putin’s plan sounds like it will work, and he won’t even have to pay The Big Guy 10%.


26 posted on 12/23/2021 12:37:17 PM PST by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals)
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To: VanShuyten

27 posted on 12/23/2021 12:42:54 PM PST by RomanSoldier19 (Res ad Triarios venit)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

That’s gotta be pretty damn close to the plan.


28 posted on 12/23/2021 12:43:19 PM PST by viewfromthefrontier
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To: dfwgator

“Generals and Majors always seem so unhappy unless they got a war.”

Everyone except enlisted and Lieutenants. It’s how they get significant promotions. And board seats or fat consulting contracts at Ratheon (etc) when they leave.


29 posted on 12/23/2021 1:05:32 PM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (Convention Of States is our only hope now! Desantis 2024!!!)
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To: rexthecat

“Putin is correct when he says that Eastern Ukraine is Russian. The people speak Russian, not Ukrainian, and identify as Russian.”

Well, that is the crux of the matter. But the majority of those ethnic Russians are actually more Pro-West than they are pro-Russia. The problem is that the Russian-centric Putin fully embraces the idea that it is Russia’s duty to come to the aid of ANY ethnic Russian, no matter where on the planet they may be, and whether or not they even want to be “rescued.”

Someone said that Russia is paranoid, but that has always been the case. A paranoid bully is very dangerous.


30 posted on 12/23/2021 1:18:08 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: rexthecat
Putin is correct when he says that Eastern Ukraine is Russian. The people speak Russian, not Ukrainian, and identify as Russian.

The only Ukrainian province with a majority of Russian speakers is Crimea.

31 posted on 12/23/2021 1:45:20 PM PST by tlozo
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To: tlozo

EVERY Ukrainian province except Galicia is Russian-speaking. The fact that people in Kiev have opted to speak surjik, which is a Spanglish sort of mix, for fear of reprisals doesn’t make them Ukrainian-speaking.


32 posted on 12/23/2021 1:58:18 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: RomanSoldier19

Putin is going in.....period.


33 posted on 12/23/2021 1:59:11 PM PST by wardamneagle
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

If Putin just accepted a NATO bases in Moscow there would be no need to put them in Ukraine. He’s being very unreasonable!


34 posted on 12/23/2021 2:09:19 PM PST by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: NorseViking
The fact that people in Kiev have opted to speak surjik,...for fear of reprisals

LOL, okay thanks for the paranoid Russian view.

35 posted on 12/23/2021 2:09:28 PM PST by tlozo
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To: RomanSoldier19

Putin will go in because Brandon and the Transvestite Joint Chiefs will no nada.


36 posted on 12/23/2021 2:09:30 PM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: tlozo

When have you been to Ukraine last time? I guess never.


37 posted on 12/23/2021 2:41:34 PM PST by NorseViking
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To: tlozo; All
Ukraine just indicted former President and current opposition leader for treason. Fear of reprisal is real and only an idiot would suggest otherwise.

Ukraine accuses former president Poroshenko of treason

38 posted on 12/23/2021 2:51:47 PM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: NorseViking

Cancel wait to see how this plays out. Either way it won’t be pretty.


39 posted on 12/23/2021 2:53:34 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (If you are vaccinated, you cannot get COVID from someone who is not vaccinated. Lighted up Karen!)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Someone needs to explain to ol’ Vlad that china is a much greater threat to Mother Russia than what NATO will ever be.


40 posted on 12/23/2021 3:02:28 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (One Nation, Under Fraud Completely Visible, With Spying and Lying Too All.)
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