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Putin tells West to ‘immediately’ meet Russia’s demands on Ukraine
https://www.pressherald.com ^ | 12/23/2021 | BY VLADIMIR ISACHENKOVASSOCIATED PRESS

Posted on 12/23/2021 10:53:50 AM PST by RomanSoldier19

The Russian leader welcomed talks with the U.S. that are set to start in Geneva next month as a “positive” move, but warned that Moscow expects the discussion to produce quick results.

Russian President Vladimir Putin urged the West on Thursday to “immediately” meet Russia’s demand for security guarantees precluding NATO’s expansion to Ukraine, saying the U.S. is “on the threshold of our home.”

Speaking during a marathon annual news conference, the Russian leader welcomed talks with the U.S. that are set to start in Geneva next month as a “positive” move, but warned that Moscow expects the discussion to produce quick results.

“We have clearly and precisely let them know that any further NATO expansion eastward is unacceptable,” Putin said.

APTOPIX Russia Putin Russian President Vladimir Putin gestures while speaking during his annual news conference in Moscow, Russia, Thursday, Dec. 23, 2021. AP Photo/Alexander Zemlianichenko

Last week, Moscow submitted draft security documents demanding that NATO deny membership to Ukraine and other former Soviet countries and roll back the alliance’s military deployments in Central and Eastern Europe. A key principle of the alliance is that membership is open to any qualifying country.

“Is it us who are putting missiles near the U.S. borders?” Putin said angrily. “No, it’s the U.S. who came to our home with its missiles, they are already on the threshold of our home. Is it some excessive demand not to place any strike weapons systems near our home?”

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1 posted on 12/23/2021 10:53:50 AM PST by RomanSoldier19
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To: RomanSoldier19

Hard to argue with him. Look how we reacted to the Soviets putting missiles in Cuba. Why would we not expect the Russians to do the same, when we go in their backyard.

I make the deal. The Russians promise hands off on states already in NATO, in exchange for our pledging that Ukraine will never be a NATO member. Just as we did with Austria in exchange for the Soviets leaving their sector of the country after the war.


2 posted on 12/23/2021 10:59:48 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: RomanSoldier19

What could we get in exchange? He sounds desperate.Carter gave up the neutron bomb and got nothing.


3 posted on 12/23/2021 11:00:35 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: dfwgator

As soon as Biden wakes up he get right on it , forget Harris she’s out of town


4 posted on 12/23/2021 11:01:53 AM PST by butlerweave
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To: RomanSoldier19

The west will gauge whether or not they can call Putin’s gambit a bluff or actual threat. I suspect they will punt in someway, trying to make the Russian border buildup cost Putin over time without giving Putin all he wants.


5 posted on 12/23/2021 11:01:55 AM PST by Wuli
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To: dfwgator

Ukraine joining NATO would put German troops just about where they were in 1942-3.


6 posted on 12/23/2021 11:02:39 AM PST by glorgau
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To: RomanSoldier19

Frankly, I understand Russia’s position. Historically, Russia is both a paranoid country as well as one that seeks respect. The latter could be that it was never fully accepted in European circles.

I do not know what our issue is with Ukraine—why do we have such a hard on for that country and all the shenigans we have played a part in there...

And for Europe itself to rely on Russian nat gas....


7 posted on 12/23/2021 11:02:52 AM PST by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Given China and the Muslims, Russia should be somewhat of an ally.


8 posted on 12/23/2021 11:04:01 AM PST by alternatives?
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To: RomanSoldier19

Ukraine in NATO?

Not just no, but he!! NO!!!

Jeeze. Forever war, inc, is chomping at the bit. “Spend that ammo! We’ll make moar!!!”


9 posted on 12/23/2021 11:05:01 AM PST by Basket_of_Deplorables (Convention Of States is our only hope now! Desantis 2024!!!)
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

Generals and Majors always seem so unhappy unless they got a war.


10 posted on 12/23/2021 11:07:33 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Munich with a fake president that lacks the backbone of a Neville Chamberlain . . .

Hmmm, I wonder what the result will be?

11 posted on 12/23/2021 11:07:41 AM PST by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Not in favor of Ukraine becoming part of NATO, but we should tell the homicidal tyrant running Russia to go **** himself.


12 posted on 12/23/2021 11:13:07 AM PST by twister881
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To: glorgau
Ukraine joining NATO would put German troops just about where they were in 1942-3.

Never heard that perspective before.

The swallowing of Ukraine by the DC deep-state has been a corrupt disaster for the USA as whole.

Their neocon anti-Russia propaganda, particularly used against Trump for 3 years, has been so pervasive, many conservatives unwittingly have it has a default setting in their brains.

13 posted on 12/23/2021 11:19:23 AM PST by PGR88
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To: abigkahuna
Historically, Russia is both a paranoid country as well as one that seeks respect. The latter could be that it was never fully accepted in European circles.

True, because European Nations' main focus since the middle ages has been to Control Russia and use Russian Resources (including the Russian Population) to decide the outcome of the unending European Wars.

14 posted on 12/23/2021 11:19:43 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: RomanSoldier19

sounds like Austria’s ultimatum to Serbia in 1914


15 posted on 12/23/2021 11:21:58 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: glorgau

German troops just about where they were in 1942-3.


But with a tiny fraction of the personnel and vehicles, and virtually no budget.


16 posted on 12/23/2021 11:34:18 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: RomanSoldier19

NATO is well past its “expiration date”. The Europeans should be able to defend Europe.


17 posted on 12/23/2021 11:38:52 AM PST by captain_dave
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To: RomanSoldier19

PUTIN: “We are not the ones that deploy missiles next to the U.S. borders. That’s the other way around...What would Americans do if we went to the border between Canada and the U.S. or to the border with Mexico and deploy our missiles there?”

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1474073981242298370


18 posted on 12/23/2021 11:40:30 AM PST by McGruff
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To: dfwgator

They’d do well to heed what Putin’s saying.....he generally does what he says when he’s put in the position he’s been warning about all along....his red line means that.


19 posted on 12/23/2021 11:42:46 AM PST by caww ( )
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To: twister881

The Ukraine government is a Corrupt Mess.

The Ukraine people deserve a break from war on this one.

They stil remember the Holodomor. (death by starvation) Stalin did that.

And Slo Joe Biden’s handlers would love to do that to US.

It is not going to happen where I live, but many cities are ripe for the picking. And the #ComDem’s are just like the rest of the Commie B_tards.


20 posted on 12/23/2021 11:49:16 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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