Posted on 12/04/2021 2:54:09 AM PST by Ahithophel
I read this yesterday, I didn’t even know Schneider was still around but it was good to see he’s of a conservative bent.
On the opposite side of the political aisle is George Clooney, a liberal, chimed in and said that basically he personally checks every gun that is handed to him.
Baldwin’s reply with something to the tune of - The way I learned it and I don’t feel guilty about anything because the system of protocol failed me. Baldwin takes no personal responsibilities with a firearm in his hand should probably never be allowed to handle a firearm again, ever. Whether in the movies or in real actual living breathing life.
You have to read the Cloony article wherever it may be, and Baldwins rebuttal. Baldwin’s rebuttle the Clooney along with the Stephanopoulos interview shows that Baldwin has compartmentalised this entire responsibility or lack thereof on this killing.
That is a sign of a serious behavioral problem.
“I love John Schneider”
I haven’t seen him or heard of Schneider in 50 years.
Seems like a decent guy. Almost pauper by Hollywood standards his net worth is below 300k, that’s sad.
Great point!
The Stephanopoulos interview with Baldwin had freaking mood music playing in the background. That is f****** weird.
At the risk of being savaged, I’m thinking there is something here that rings true to me.
“If” Baldwin was practicing his draw, for what ever reason to include just playing around, thumbing back the hammer is a legitimate act. Not knowing it was loaded, pointing it at another person is not legitimate.
I have had two incidents in my life were a loaded firearm discharged without touching the trigger. Both times without injury.
First time my father was using a bolt action shotgun. A gun he had owned and used since he was 16 years old. We got out of the car and entered the field were we then proceeded to load. Dad’s gun could hold 3 rounds plus one in the chamber and would be cocked when the bolt was drawn back and then pushed forward. Like any bolt rifle. He drew back the bolt, loaded and then pushed the bolt forward. The thing went off as soon as the bolt locked forward. The only time to my knowledge such a thing happened with that gun. We checked the trigger mechanism later and found nothing out of place.
A true freak accident.
The second time I was using a 100 year old shot gun with outside hammers. Loaded up to shoot crows. As I was raising to take aim (fingers out of the trigger guard) the thing went off halfway up. Later inspection found a badly worn sear that was just barely holding back the hammer. Lesson learned.
Given my two experiences coupled with an Armor who appears not to be old enough to drive and VERY wet behind the ears,
I consider this to be plausible.
In spite of all that, there is still the issue that he pointed the gun at another human being.
He can maybe make excuses till the cows come home about how the gun fired itself, but HE was the one who pointed it at her and for that, there is no excuse.
Great point!
The Stephanopoulos interview with Baldwin had freaking mood music playing in the background. That is f****** weird.
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It’s also ******* manipulative , a form of subliminal propaganda.
I was channel surfing and caught Alex crying, changed the channel and the next wave of surfing long after saw him STILL crying.
The first reaction was “ at least he feels remorse”
The second time was “ what a weasel, then not remorseful he’s acting ,,, pfft.”
It’s at least negligent manslaughter imho.
I disagree.
She has put on a lot of weight as most of us do as we get older, but she looks good for someone 67 years old.
I’d still date her, but I’m coming up on 72. (Also, my wife wouldn’t let me)
I agree that Scheider is a good guy.
“Baldwin has still not been arrested or charged. More proof of the clear, two tiered justice system in this country.”
I think he WILL BE arrested, tried, and convicted.
Thanks! Finn is at the vet now. Hate when fur babies get sick.
But what does the COUSINS of Bo Duke have to say?
Remember, they came in to fill Bo and Luke’s spot when there was a strike.
He would have had to have fully cocked the hammer, and pulled the trigger to make it go “Boom”, unless it had been modified as a “slip hammer” pistol, with the trigger tied back or removed.
Pietta makes two types of copies of the 1873 Colt. One like the originals, and one with a transfer bar in which the hammer must be fully cocked to raise the transfer bar.
Below is a schematic of the two types made by Pietta. One like the old style and a transfer bar model.
https://www.vtigunparts.com/store/images/1873%20Pietta%20SA.png
One more thing I forgot about, when the hammer is cocked, a pawl connected to the hammer pushes up on the cylinder to rotate the next chamber into firing position. When in firing position the “bolt” on the bottom locks the cylinder into position.
If you thumb slips before the cartridge in the chamber is aligned, the firing pin will not hit the primer, but to one side.
To make it fire, the hammer has to be at full cock. If at full cock, then the trigger has to be pulled to make it fire.
The idiot Baldwin gets his day in court. Why do I care what other actors have to say about it? He’s in the attention-seeking business, so he’ll weigh in on the story. His ideology doesn’t have any bearing on the case. At this point, we have Baldwin’s words. Let’s see how they stack up against the facts in the case....the mechanical condition of the pistol, chain of custody, and where the live ammo came from.
Systemic Classism!!
Baldwin may be telling the truth. Single action revolvers of the original design had the firing pin attached to the hammer and pulling the hammer back slightly less than half-cock position and releasing it could fire the gun.
Would somebody that knows more than I do educate me as to whether the trigger is engaged at half-cock? I seem to remember that it is not. If not, pulling the trigger at half-cock would not release the hammer.
These guns were the origin of the term, going off half-cocked.
None of this excuses Baldwin for pointing a gun at a person, but it might explain how it could have discharged without touching the trigger.
Wife! What you going to do?
This poor gun has likely been abused by cast and crew fanning it. Free gun, free ammo...people will abuse it. If it was being used for target practice and screwing around, and not properly naintained, who knows?
Something that isn’t being discussed is the physiology of people under stress pre- and post traumatic event. Nobody( let’s assume) expected the gun to go off. Or be loaded. Have you ever been involved in the debriefing of people involved in shootings? Are you aware of what goes on in their minds? How they can’t recall things that are obvious to others? How many shots were fired? Fact in evidence: Alec Baldwin is an assh*le. But he’s still subject to biological processes. What does he remember? You’d better believe his lawyers are gonna bring in people that will testify to the effects on memory of a shooting event. Has AB’s lawyer, knowing this, reverse engineered a defense?
“It’s at least negligent manslaughter imho.”
This phase.
The armorer is done.
The company is bankrupted
Civil suits follow.
It’s not like the loaded gun was handed over to chimp to see what would happen... but it might as well have been.
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