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To: JonPreston

No that’s called a single action revolver without modern firing pin trigger safety block going off half cocked. This is the origin of the term going off half cocked. Original colt single action and their derivatives all share this safety issue. If the hammer is pulled back but is not engaged to the past the half cocked or full cocked sears and it is released it will under spring pressure fall back forward with considerable speed usually enough when the foreign pin is struck to light off the cartridge. This is also why historically 6 shot single action revolvers where carried with one empty chamber and that chamber was under the hammer. When on horse back if brush or something caught the hammer while on the leg holster and it let go of the hammer before it made it back to a cocked on sear position the gun would discharge right down ones leg. Modern revolvers be it single or double action all now have some means of trigger actuated fireing pin block typically this is a rotating block that disconnects the hammer end of the firing pin from the primer end not until the trigger is fully pulled does the block rotate fully to allow the two ends of the firing pin to transfer force to the primer. 1860 ers single action revolvers lack this as do all of their period accurate clones. This firearm is a period accurate clones of a 1860s era single action it absolutely will go off half.cocked and there should have been a detailed safety still conducted to highlight this danger.


16 posted on 12/03/2021 5:54:48 AM PST by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: JD_UTDallas

And don’t point a gun at anyone unless you intend to shoot them… this is manslaughter at a minimum and he needs to be charged.


23 posted on 12/03/2021 6:00:27 AM PST by GMLORGMD (20+ year lurker, new poster. )
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To: JD_UTDallas

Exactly!

My uncle had an older replica revolver that he showed us that very issue. Which is why he never carried a full cylinder on any revolver (more because he had a mix and didn’t want to forget).


33 posted on 12/03/2021 6:09:42 AM PST by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: JD_UTDallas

Good luck trying selling that to anyone with a working brain cell.


36 posted on 12/03/2021 6:11:01 AM PST by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: JD_UTDallas

Thanks. Many folks have never heard your explanation before and it’s exactly why Baldwin will be held responsible.

I inherited my great grandfather’s single action Colt 45 50 years ago. From the day my father handed me the revolver, he drilled the mechanics of the single action revolver ad nauseam and always said to carry the weapon with an empty chamber under the hammer. That old Colt shoot great and guess what…it’s never gone off and killed anyone…yet.


42 posted on 12/03/2021 6:20:34 AM PST by bigfootbob (ALL Biden VOTERS have BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS….Ann Archy)
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To: JD_UTDallas

“No that’s called a single action revolver without modern firing pin trigger safety block going off half cocked. This is the origin of the term going off half cocked. Original colt single action and their derivatives all share this safety issue. If the hammer is pulled back but is not engaged to the past the half cocked or full cocked sears and it is released it will under spring pressure fall back forward with considerable speed usually enough when the foreign pin is struck to light off the cartridge.”

So it sounds like Baldwin could be telling the truth (for once).


44 posted on 12/03/2021 6:26:52 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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To: JD_UTDallas

A couple of posters yesterday put out some pretty good info regarding the replica pistol used.

“Since the 1960s, most film makers have used replicas made in Italy. The one Baldwin had was a new replica made by Italian gun-maker Pietta. They and Uberti produce dozens of replica versions of Old West firearms from pocket pistols to revolvers to rifles of all”

“As a poster noted some but not all have modern safety features like a transfer bar to prevent the revolver from firing without pulling the trigger.”

So it was a Replica Pietta, which uses transfer bars...

However, Pietta has manufactured exact replica actions from the time period.

I still am unclear and other posters on this thread brought up some very good points like “you never point a gun at anybody” safety.

Worn halfcock notches has been mentioned, and I think several people might be checking out their single actions to see if there’s anywhere along that hammer path allowing a hammer strike if released. I don’t think so.

John Schneider chimed in on the medias building narrative and portrayal of Smart-Alec as a victim, little Georgie’s interview is a reveal.

And as appropriately mentioned by another poster, “why doesn’t Alec Baldwin’s lawyer tell him to shut up”

Is Baldwin a psychopath? Is Baldwin a narcissist? What is Baldwin? He’s obviously an actor because Stephanopoulos interview clearly demonstrates.


50 posted on 12/03/2021 6:32:52 AM PST by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: JD_UTDallas

Baldwin didn’t check thecondition of the gun violating all firearms safety protocols. Then he co led a loaded gun pulling the hammer back and aimed at the victim firing the gun. The gun is not at fault.


52 posted on 12/03/2021 6:38:28 AM PST by Clean_Sweep
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To: JD_UTDallas

I think we can agree that Alec Baldwin is a whole cock.


70 posted on 12/03/2021 7:16:29 AM PST by drSteve78 (Je suis Deplorable. STILL)
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To: JD_UTDallas

Thank you. That was very informative.


83 posted on 12/03/2021 7:42:43 AM PST by gloryblaze
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To: JD_UTDallas
" it is released it will under spring pressure fall back forward with considerable speed usually enough when the foreign pin is struck to light off the cartridge"

Wouldn't have been a problem if they'd used an American pin!

102 posted on 12/03/2021 8:39:19 AM PST by catman67 (14 gauge?)
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