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Maxwell accuser says she was introduced to Trump at Mar-a-Lago at age 14
NY Post ^ | 12/01/2021 | Ben Feuerherd and Tamar Lapin

Posted on 12/01/2021 2:41:40 PM PST by ChicagoConservative27

The first alleged victim to testify against Ghislaine Maxwell at her sex-trafficking trial said Wednesday that she was introduced to former president Donald Trump by Jeffrey Epstein and once flew with Prince Andrew on one of the financier’s private planes.

The accuser, who testified under the pseudonym “Jane,” recalled the two encounters while being quizzed by Maxwell’s defense attorney, Laura Menninger.

Jane responded affirmatively when asked if Epstein drove her to Mar-a-Lago in a “dark green car” when she was 14 years old in the 1990s.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


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KEYWORDS: epstein; introduced; maralago; maxwell; ooooooooooooooooh; trump
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To: bagster
#PizzaGateIsReal

#PizzaFake


101 posted on 12/02/2021 5:30:15 AM PST by humblegunner (Ain't drownin', Just wavin'...)
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To: EEGator

This hasn’t anything at all to de with equality. It is all about safety. Harvest it.


102 posted on 12/02/2021 6:49:45 AM PST by GingisK
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To: sit-rep

I’ll let your own words speak for you. Indefensible.


103 posted on 12/02/2021 7:22:22 AM PST by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: Persevero

once upon a time there scooter, girls were marrying and having kids at 14, 15 and 16 years old. it became societal law to wait for 18. get off your self righteous horse and smell what youre shovel’n...


104 posted on 12/02/2021 8:37:30 AM PST by sit-rep ( )
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To: ladyjane

Your assumption is incorrect-I live in a remote rural area- I do not “hang around” bad people-I’ve had the same friends for many years-most of the women here are not weak sisters-we are independent women who are self-reliant-whether single or partnered we know how to make a living and take care of ourselves without being manipulative or needy users of men-city women do not do last long here-they move back where they came from...

I don’t think there are any weak sister Freepers,either-my opinion of most females is based upon both personal and professional experience-you really shouldn’t make assumptions about people you do not know-it isn’t polite...


105 posted on 12/02/2021 12:20:01 PM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: DesertRhino

LMAO-good one-but she would be a masseuse...


106 posted on 12/02/2021 12:27:33 PM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Texan5
you really shouldn’t make assumptions about people you do not know

Yet you say most females are needy and manipulative weak sisters.

LOL Oh the irony.

107 posted on 12/02/2021 12:28:51 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane

Based upon my experience they are-especially my experience as a case manager-and I have not been rude to you-so I expect the same courtesy-this is just a discussion of what some of us have observed-the dishonesty of many/most females-not a criticism of you, your friends, etc-I made a point of saying that Freeper females are not in that category-otherwise, they would not be here at a conservative site discussing issues with men as equals...


108 posted on 12/02/2021 12:46:35 PM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: R_Kangel

“A couple Days ago the FAA .... Accidentally .... Revealed that there were 704 Previously Unknown Epstein flights to his island ..... Hmmmmmm ..... Wonder why these Flights were being kept out of the information stream????”

You are correct about the additional 704 flights. 🇺🇸

The question needs some an answer -


109 posted on 12/02/2021 1:08:08 PM PST by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: bagster
I find humor in your attempt to shame me.

That great. Not attempting to shame you, actually.

Oh yes you were. No need to lie about it.

No, I guess most people don't understand, which is why all
they see is 'whore'. Like as if a child can be a whore. Naivete
in the elderly is not attractive. They've been around on this
earth long enough to know better.


I understand the topic just fine.

Pre-teens, no matter what they do are not someone I would term
culpable. Girls approaching that age and beyond can be. Not
all of them, but at least some of them can.

I do not subscribe to your view that 100% of minors have no
conscience of their own and are exempted from accountability.

They can and at times do make some poor choices that set them
up to be abused. When they are, that still means that they have
been taken advantage of, and that is wrong.

Some girls experiment with boys early. They enjoy it and become
sex addicts. They go from boy to boy and get a name around school.
The problem is, at some point they can run into someone they desire
that may manipulate them. That may or may not be an adult.

While I do think these girls share part of the responsibility for
their actions, I do support statutory rape laws that hold the
adults accountable.

Do I think they should be referred to as whores? No. I told
you that in my last post, and you brought it up again here. There
was no need for that other than you to insinuate I still thought
along those lines. I don't.

You also brought age into it, as if every person must have run
into abused women along the way, and if they haven't they are
somehow stupid and guilty. How incredibly ignorant of you. I
don't frequent porn sights. I don't frequent strip joints. I don't
hang around with people who do.

I hear of the sex trade and some of what goes on, but it is not
something that is a driving force in my life. I don't have some
guilty past that causes me to focus on this. I would never accuse
someone I don't know of being some sort of wink and a nod
with sex traffickers, statutory rapists, or the people they hang
out with.

I will say that if a girl is charging a fee for services even at a
young age without the help of a pimp, that does pretty much
put her in some dicey territory. I still would try to talk about
her infraction in terms avoiding psychological implications.

Not every minor female that gets into trouble has been abducted
or forced into things. I mention a condition earlier that existed
outside these parameters.

When I was twelve years old, I had the neighbor girl ask me and a
few other guys if we would agree to play "I'll show you mine if
you'll show me yours." There were no adults involved. I didn't
think it was right, and I didn't participate. I'm not sure if
anything else happened. I never asked.

In my early 20s I did frequent a strip club for a few times with
a friend. We talked a couple of the young women. One explained
she was in college and needed a way to bring in money temporarily.
Another young woman stated she wanted to retire early and would
only be doing this enough to quit working. Not every women has
entered this industry by force.

I have run into three women and one man in my life who were clearly
in trouble. I offered a hand up and all four were happier in their
troubled lifestyle than they think they would have been leaving it

Don't preach to me.

I understand there are women out there who have been forced to
do things. I don't think there are lower types of life form than
the men AND WOMEN who exploit them.

I'm speaking to the scum that thinks the girls are whores and
that its funny somehow. There's a few of them.

Is that what you tell yourself? This is what you said to me in this
very post.

You seem borderline, though.

So you did mean that in part to me.

But people in America have lived sheltered, comfortable lives
and you're right. They have no idea of the evil that men can do
and the darkness that is all around them and at the highest levels
of society.

For the record, I didn't say men didn't know. I said I hadn't
run into it, which is entirely different. I know that fatal car
accidents take place. I've never been involved in one.

At 70 years of age, I'm not stupid and ashamed because I don't
know what it is like to be in one.

And that's exactly how the derps like it. It allows them to flourish
unabated and unpunished and has for hundreds of years.

I'm glad you think pedophilia is bad, but this is bigger than
we can know and is not simple pedophelia. Ghislaine/Epstein is
just the tip.

#PizzaGateIsReal

It's one thing to talk about an issue that you think needs more
attention. It's another to start labeling people you don't know
as a this or that.

This is an area where there are a number of layers. Not every
one of the categories you talked of, are 100% as you seem to think.
As for international trafficking, yeah it's all bad. I haven't
run into it. That doesn't make me anything other than a man that
hasn't run into it.

110 posted on 12/02/2021 2:12:30 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Democrats, fixing things that haven't been broken, so they don't work, for over 197 years.)
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To: R_Kangel; AnthonySoprano

“..... A couple Days ago the FAA .... Accidentally .... Revealed that there were 704 Previously Unknown Epstein flights to his island ..... Hmmmmmm ..... Wonder why these Flights were being kept out of the information stream????”

Probably because it may implicate several democratic members of congress, a former president or two, members of the fedgov bureaucracy, Hollywood, etc.


111 posted on 12/02/2021 3:25:56 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (One Nation, Under Fraud Completely Visible, With Spying and Lying Too All.)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

I found that interesting also.

Don’t really know what to make of it, but I agree with your
thoughts.

I didn’t read the article. Wonder if he used a different
charter airline that they didn’t know about.


112 posted on 12/02/2021 3:40:45 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Democrats, fixing things that haven't been broken, so they don't work, for over 197 years.)
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To: bagster; EEGator

“You’re a sick dude, bro. You bring shame on us all.”

You should be on a grand jury sometime.

We had one case where a grandmother was trying to bring a case against her granddaughters boyfriend.

The granddaughter was 15 or 16 when she testified before us, her boyfriend was 2 years older. The grandmother didn’t like the boyfriend because he was black. That being said, the ADA came in and gave us the rundown, and warned us about the granddaughter’s appearance.

Long story short, the granddaughter was dressed like a slut. Like a cross between Britney Spears and a Washington DC call girl.


113 posted on 12/02/2021 4:07:19 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (One Nation, Under Fraud Completely Visible, With Spying and Lying Too All.)
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To: sit-rep
If a 14 year old was in an environment like that, and didnt jump up on a table and scream she’s being trafficed please help me, she’s a whore...

You're a perv and a child molestor apologist.


114 posted on 12/02/2021 4:10:38 PM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: 2CAVTrooper

And I bet you know why she was dressed like a slut.
Because she is a slut.


115 posted on 12/02/2021 4:19:01 PM PST by EEGator
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To: bagster

ya well if that is all you got out of what I said then your an idiot.


116 posted on 12/02/2021 5:14:50 PM PST by sit-rep ( )
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To: sit-rep
ya well if that is all you got out of what I said then your an idiot.

Guess I'm just gonna have to be an idiot then, pervo.


117 posted on 12/02/2021 5:21:09 PM PST by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster

mw accusing the girl, 14 for not screaming out if she is being “Raped”, she doesnt try to get away, and she flits around with Maxwell “..And was even introduced to trump”... and she doesnt say anything to anyone who could help her, that makes me a perv and an apologist??... yes, you are an idiot...

No where in my words do I say its okay to be hittin a 14 year old. its nothing but your desperate attempt to not look like a fool... smart people can see right thru you...


118 posted on 12/02/2021 5:27:54 PM PST by sit-rep ( )
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To: sit-rep

You are an insulting pig.

I have no objection to a teen with parental permission marrying. I see marriage as a protection not an exploitation in that case. Is there a difference between rape, and sex within marriage? I guess you can’t see it. Then again you are contorting myself to make villains of neglected and exploited teens. Alrighty then

Love, Scooter


119 posted on 12/02/2021 7:06:16 PM PST by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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To: Persevero

make up your mind... Are they Raped or they neglected and exploited teens. dont change your words half way thru an argument and expect to be takin serious. youre as bad as bagster


120 posted on 12/02/2021 7:11:23 PM PST by sit-rep ( )
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