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Virginia's new Republican Governor says he will not stop any vaccine or mask mandates
https://nationalfile.com/youngkin-will-allow-virginia-counties-cities-k-12-public-schools-to-mandate-covid-19-vaccines-and-masks/ ^

Posted on 11/17/2021 3:00:47 PM PST by charles_covington

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To: Persevero
A “C” governor is way better.

I get that. I really do. The problem is, we've been doing this for at least the 30 years I've been voting, and apparently longer, because I've had quite a few elders that were saying the things I'm saying to naive younger me, and I was saying the same as you. It just doesn't work. As long as that is how we roll when it comes to elections, we will always continue to get what we have now, and that is a piss poor excuse for a political party.

181 posted on 11/18/2021 7:32:06 AM PST by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
will be allowing localities in the state – including cities, counties, and public school systems – to implement mask and vaccine mandates
Smart, like when Newt bailed out of his own Contract with America by letting everyone vote their "consciences".

182 posted on 11/18/2021 11:00:19 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Theodore R.
I don’t understand your questioning of Abbott.

Are schools still having mandates?

I know when he announced his big actions they did not prevent cities, schools or employers from mandates, has that changed? I am not a Texan I am a displaced Okie living in another communist utopia state due to circumstances beyond my control. Well not beyond my control exactly, it just that it would cause major disruption in family so I conceded but I wish I hadn't.

183 posted on 11/18/2021 11:07:29 AM PST by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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To: itsahoot

“We hate bottom up tyranny just as much and not preventing it results in exactly the same outcome.”

Preventing bottom-up tyranny isn’t the Governor’s responsibility; it’s YOURS as a Citizen — all that “We, The People” and “consent of the governed” stuff they never teach in school anymore.

Get to the City Council meeting. Bring a busload.
Go give the County Board of Supes an earful.
Phone, email or — old school, WRITE — your State Representative and Senator; even the Governor.

The squeaky wheel... and you KNOW that strident Progressive harridan up the street is doing plenty of squeaking. So, get into the mix and guarantee that’s not the only voice Municipal government hears.

It’s only if there gets to be an outcry all over the State, the Governor might, then, see cause to examine the matter; and even then it has to fall into that “compelling state interest” type of category, and it’d be far better handled via State Legislation than by Executive Order.


184 posted on 11/18/2021 2:02:03 PM PST by HKMk23 (The right of freedom of religion shall not be derogated even if the life of the nation is at stake.)
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To: itsahoot

IT’S ALL about what is means to be a Citizen.
And we are DREADFULLY CLOSE to losing it entirely.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQSjO5-sSOY


185 posted on 11/18/2021 2:08:17 PM PST by HKMk23 (The right of freedom of religion shall not be derogated even if the life of the nation is at stake.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

These aren’t vaccines. Vaccines don’t break down after 5 months. Vaccines dont need bootsers. And the #1 clue its not a vaccine, vaccines don’t make you more susceptible to getting the virus you we vaccinated for! This shot is designed for 1 reason only, to break down your immune system to make you more susceptible to diseases and infections enough to kill you, period!


186 posted on 11/18/2021 2:53:12 PM PST by The MAGA-Deplorian ( Democrats are lawless because Republicans are ball-less!)
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To: HKMk23
It’s only if there gets to be an outcry all over the State

People that are in power via rigged elections owe the public nothing and they don't respond well to the riff raff.

Elections have been rigged since the first voting machines were installed in Chicago. Minority controlled cities have been rigged for decades.

How many here know the Republicans were barred from contesting elections because The Lion of the Senate decreed that all southern states were racist. They are now freed from that restraint, want to predict how they will react to their new freedom? I will save you the trouble nothing will change.

187 posted on 11/18/2021 4:41:10 PM PST by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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To: The MAGA-Deplorian

You sound like you think a vaccine stays in your body, waiting for a disease to come along so it can attack it.

Vaccines are not something that stay in your body, so the idea that they don’t “break down” is meaningless.

A vaccine triggers immune responses in a body. The body then remembers this immune response, to greater or lesser degrees, so that if a disease is encountered, the body “remembers” it, and can respond more quickly than if it had to create a defense on the spot.

The best “vaccine’ is the actual disease, as it is a perfect representation of the disease, so the body creates antibodies that are well-matched. Of course, you also get the disease, which might cause permanent damage before your body can respond.

All other vaccines are imperfect. Some are close to exact matches for a disease, to the point where they could actually give you the disease if they used ‘live’ virus.

Vaccines traditionally take a long time to create, because manufacturing a duplicate for a virus, but that is harmless, is hard work. Flu vaccine is “easy” because we already HAVE a flu vaccine, and just have to tweak it every year. Still takes time.

Anyway, these COVID vaccines are a new breed, where they just found a bunch of markers for COVID, and created a vaccine that has those markers, so your body creates ways to fight those markers. Since the markers are a subset of the actual disease, it is easier for mutations to change those parts and make YOUR ANTIBODIES less effective. Also, they way they trigger your immune system may be slightly different, providing less antibodies.

Of course, these are not the first vaccines to require boosters. many vaccines do require two shots just for the start, you take tetanus periodically, I just got boosters for several vaccines. And I get a flu shot every year, because of how quickly the flu mutates.

There is no indication that people who got vaccinated are more likely to get COVID. But people are very bad with statistics.


188 posted on 11/19/2021 1:05:58 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: dware

Apples and Oranges.

The virus is mutating, becoming more virulent, but slightly less lethal. That’s how viruses generally go, because the lethal strains kill their hosts, while the non-lethal ones go undetected and spread. Eventually, they are like the common cold, everybody can catch it, nobody dies of it.

In order to make sense of “deaths and hospitalizations are rising”, you have to look at how many people are being exposed, how many are showing signs of infection, and what variant is infecting.

You would find that we don’t do a great job of this, but the original variants are pretty much wiped out at this point, and the vaccinated are mostly getting infected with the newer variants, and of those who are “caught” as infected, a much smaller percentage of them are getting hospitalized and dying than of the group of unvaccinated who catch the same variant.


189 posted on 11/19/2021 1:11:31 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

What really funny is you actually think this is a vaccine....tha wears off in a few months that requires a booster, then another booster and another booster. Name one other vaccine that requires that many boosters, and modifies a persons DNA?


190 posted on 11/19/2021 1:18:35 PM PST by The MAGA-Deplorian (. Democrats are lawless because Republicans are ball-less!)
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To: charles_covington; C210N; dware; Whatever Works; House Atreides; Starboard; Luke21; dfwgator

A lot of the comments here didn’t age well at all. LOL!

“DUR... TERRYZ WUD HUV BEEN BETTERSZ!!!”

“DUR... NOTA DIFFERENZE!!!”

“DUR... IZZ NOTTA VOTINZ NO MOARH!”


Yesterday’s statement from Youngkin about “vaccine” mandates. Made on WCHVs morning show.

“Let me just be clear I’m gonna choose every authority that I have as governor in order to combat what I believe are not correct mandates and therefore I’m gonna rescind them. And let’s just be clear I have three big principles. One, there should be no state government mandates. Two, in fact people should not get fired from their job for not getting the vaccine. And finally when it comes to children, parents know best for what’s right for their kids when it comes to their education and their health. And therefore I will rescind Executive Order 18 for state employees, they will not be mandated to wear masks or get vaccines. And I will hire, I will appoint a new health commissioner and we will rescind the public health order that requires kids in K-12 education to wear a mask in order to attend both public and private schools. And then finally, I will work with our Attorney General Jason Miyares and we are gonna push back in what I believe is an unconstitutional position from Joe Biden that employers with more than 100 employees mandate their employees get a vaccine otherwise they have to fire the employees. We’re just not gonna stand by and let this happen. And so I just wanna be really really clear, this has been my position, this continues to be my position, that we in fact are going to respect the individual ability to make these decision with regards to the vaccine and particularly with parents’ ability to make decisions with regards to their children.”


191 posted on 11/20/2021 9:36:29 AM PST by TexasGurl24
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