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What Is an America that Holds Prisoners Indefinitely without Charging Them?
American Thinker ^ | 11/11/2021 | E. Jeffrey Ludwig

Posted on 11/11/2021 1:47:17 AM PST by markomalley

The U.S. is facing a serious constitutional crisis over the handling of the cases of defendants in the Jan. 6 so-called "insurrection" in Washington, D.C. to protest the presidential election modus operandi and the results. Those being held for many months without a trial are being denied their habeas corpus rights under the U.S. Constitution and even dating back to English law hundreds of years before our Constitution was implemented. Not only are they being incarcerated without having had a trial, but there is some evidence that they are being mistreated or are being held 23 hours a day in solitary confinement, which is a punishment accorded only the most dangerous criminals, such as serial killers and terrorists.

What are habeas corpus rights? According to the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), "[h]abeas corpus is a fundamental right in the Constitution that protects against unlawful and indefinite imprisonment. Translated from Latin it means 'show me the body.' Habeas corpus has historically been an important instrument to safeguard individual freedom against arbitrary executive power." A citizen must be charged and cannot be held indefinitely. A charge requires a trial, and, if found guilty in a trial, there is a sentence for a specific amount of time.

Even PolitiFact — hardly an unbiased fact checker — relates, "The vast majority of defendants have been released from custody while awaiting trial, but some [my italics] held in jail have been kept in solitary confinement." The fact that exact numbers for how many are held in solitary confinement or for how long suggests to this writer evasion by the Washington, D.C. jail authorities.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: capitol; dcdistrictstooges; dissent; habeascorpus; jan6th; politicalprisoners; stooge; stoogejudge; studge
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To: markomalley

Liz Chaney’s America.


21 posted on 11/11/2021 3:17:28 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Article10

With the repeal or nullification of the Seventeenth by States comes great responsibility. In other words, States would suddenly have to start acting like examples of a sovereign ruling authority, One who’s power and authority eclipse it’s present master the Federal Government of the United States.

Clearly that is an impossible bridge to cross. States would much rather not be bothered. Much easier to cow the public into submitting to tyranny than seizing and exercising principles of LIBERTY and FREEDOM. Absent a leader or leader States, we are sunk. Rudderless, subject to the whims of the tyrannical master.


22 posted on 11/11/2021 3:28:39 AM PST by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.)
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To: Robert357

The Liberal Democrats and Deep State know what mobs are capable of and that is why they are so afraid and why they are violating every Constitutional right of those connected with January 6th and the rest of the population as well while nailing down the real insurrection. The nullification of the voice of the people in election 2020.

Fixed it.


23 posted on 11/11/2021 3:36:34 AM PST by wita (Always and forever, under oath in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.)
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To: markomalley
What Is an America that Holds Prisoners Indefinitely without Charging Them?

They were all charged when they were arrested.

What are habeas corpus rights?

Every single one has appeared before a judge at least once. What I think Ludwig is blathering about is not habeas corpus but the defendant's 8th Amendment rights against excessive bail. But bail can be denied if the prosecution shows the defendant is a flight risk.

24 posted on 11/11/2021 4:04:24 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: markomalley

bkmk


25 posted on 11/11/2021 4:14:14 AM PST by sauropod
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To: Cboldt

I believe that one of the reasons for the 17th Amendment was the degree of corruption found in some state legislatures. I don’t expect to see the 17th repealed any time soon anyway.


26 posted on 11/11/2021 4:52:44 AM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: markomalley

I know these are cliches, but never more true. People better wake up before it is too late. It may already be to that point.


27 posted on 11/11/2021 4:53:40 AM PST by Old Coach1
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To: wita

I think there is another effect in play too. Two incompetent but power hungry entities get to blame the other.

It’s a per se weakness in federalism. state says “that’s feds fault/job,” feds say “that’s state’s fault/job” - accompanied by reams of disingenuous argument, impenetrable legalese. End result? Control stays in place and the public is left confused and bewildered. Th people in charge, stay in charge.

It looks like a fight on the outside, but in fact it is cooperation. A form of good-cop/bad-cop.


28 posted on 11/11/2021 5:00:49 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: markomalley

29 posted on 11/11/2021 5:18:31 AM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.

Important enough to go in the first Article.

Should be applied on southern border. NOT for Fed-led demonstration at the capitol.


30 posted on 11/11/2021 5:25:15 AM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: markomalley

What is a GOP legislator who isn’t doing everything in his power to get justice for these prisoners? Pffft! on all of them except MTG and Gohmert.


31 posted on 11/11/2021 5:27:20 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (When government fears the people, there is liberty.)
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To: markomalley

We’ve been openly doing that for 20 years. Welcome to the Patriot Act. And not so openly doing it for 30 years before that. Welcome to the War on Drugs. What’s that thing about first they came for... but that wasn’t me... Really guys, maybe you should have been paying attention.


32 posted on 11/11/2021 5:41:29 AM PST by discostu (Like a dog being shown a card trick )
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To: markomalley
The U.S. is facing a serious constitutional crisis..

This author has been asleep for the past year. The only way to fix this is to go get the prisoners.

33 posted on 11/11/2021 5:48:11 AM PST by eastexsteve
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Seems democrats have some serious commie ‘intelligence’ help...


34 posted on 11/11/2021 6:31:03 AM PST by GOPJ (The 'conspiracy card' like the 'race card' is being overused by white liberal 'elites' fools.)
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To: wita

All very true observations and valid concerns.

The repeal of the 17th is a path I would surely travel versus the current trajectory this once great country is on...


35 posted on 11/11/2021 6:46:37 AM PST by Article10 (Roger That)
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To: Cboldt

“They have been charged. That part of the rant is false”

Wrong.

Most were let go without ever being charged but spend 10-15 years locked up.. One spent 14 years there and he was interviewed in RT TV the other day.

Of the 39 remaining, 27 have never been charged.
All Americans should be against this as we are finding out it will be used against us.

https://www.businessinsider.com/guantanamo-bay-9-11-how-many-prisoners-charges-details-history-2021-8


36 posted on 11/11/2021 7:49:54 AM PST by setter
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To: setter

I was referring to the jan 6 political prisoners, not the gitmo ones. Maybe my sloppy read of the article.


37 posted on 11/11/2021 7:53:54 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: markomalley

This is no longer America as we knew it.


38 posted on 11/11/2021 8:43:19 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.I ha)
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To: markomalley

It’s. time to storm the Bastille.


39 posted on 11/11/2021 10:44:50 AM PST by myerson
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To: markomalley

This is the disgusting democrats.

VOTE DEMOCRATS OUT !!!

Vote them out !!


40 posted on 11/11/2021 2:43:43 PM PST by Pearfect
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