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Creditor prepares bankruptcy proceedings against Evergrande
Disclose TV ^ | 11/10/21 | Daniel K

Posted on 11/10/2021 6:57:45 AM PST by C210N

China Evergrande Group today again defaulted on interest payments to international investors.

DMSA, the German Market Screening Agency, itself is invested in these bonds and has not received any interest payments until today’s end of the grace period. Now DMSA is preparing bankruptcy proceedings against Evergrande and calls on all bond investors to join it.

(Excerpt) Read more at disclose.tv ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; evergrande; realestate; realty
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Buckle Up folks, may be a wild ride (down)...


1 posted on 11/10/2021 6:57:45 AM PST by C210N
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To: KC_Lion

Pei-Ping.


2 posted on 11/10/2021 6:58:58 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: C210N

Any non-Chinese financial institution lending money to ANY Chinese interest is STUPID at best.


3 posted on 11/10/2021 7:01:11 AM PST by House Atreides
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To: C210N

Maybe that is why the price of gold is up a tiny bit today.


4 posted on 11/10/2021 7:02:22 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: C210N
3 related links...

How Canada is exposed to ripple effects of Evergrande debt crisis

Canada's CPPIB to buy Ports America from Oaktree to further infrastructure push

Watchdog raises concern about Canadian pension investments in China

5 posted on 11/10/2021 7:03:58 AM PST by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: House Atreides
Chinese Bankruptcy Court? Good luck with that one!

Maybe, just maybe this fiasco will be a sign for smart money to leave China. But probably not, the smart money types have not figured out that they are financing our takeover by the Chinese.

The Chinese are killing us with our own germ warfare, will use our own military technology against us and all financed by Wall Street.

Man you cannot fix stupid!

6 posted on 11/10/2021 7:10:06 AM PST by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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To: House Atreides

> Any non-Chinese financial institution lending money to ANY Chinese interest is STUPID at best. <

Out of curiously I looked it up. At least some of Evergrande‘s bonds had a coupon yield of 9.5%. That’s a pretty fat yield, and I’ll bet it seduced many investors.

Those folks evidently forgot this investing rule-of-thumb: The greater the reward, the greater the risk.


7 posted on 11/10/2021 7:11:38 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: C210N

A word on the legal situation in China. It is not allowed, in writing, actually, that a foreign entity can prevail in Chinese court against a Chinese entity. Also, in a Chinese against Chinese suit the one that’s connected to the CCP wins...usually. But I read an article an the reason Xi is taking down so many Chinese businesses is they are connected, usually by family, to the previous Chinese leadership. (The actual one, not the former party head who was a puppet.)

The purpose was to take the money behind Evergrand off the party maneuvering table before the next party conference. As a matter of interest, Xi has put Pakistani people in charge of parts of the People’s army to prevent the opposition from “corrupting?” the army leadership during the upcoming conference. There was, apparently, an attempt on Xi’s life and it led to the same kind of purge Hitter pulled off after Valkyrie failed. In the last week there have been 10 massive explosions inside China, all hushed up. (Reported by the Indian news service “Gravitas.”)

With any luck, China will implode without launching any external conflict. There still may be an exchange of nuclear weapons but they’d be limited to Chinese vs Chinese targets. Imagine the American civil war, but with nukes.


8 posted on 11/10/2021 7:15:08 AM PST by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: Gen.Blather

That shallow piece gave no hint as to where the bankruptcy would be filed. If Evergrande has even the slightest connection to the US - look for it to be filed here under Chapter 15.


9 posted on 11/10/2021 7:20:00 AM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Gen.Blather

About 11 months ago, it was briefly (maybe for a day) about $3.99 per share, then six weeks later, it hit a value of ZERO. Presently, it’s drifting around 28 to 30 cents. At some point, some idiots actually put it on the Global 500.

Somewhere around 2016, you could have jumped on the wagon for about a year, and tripled your money in nine months. I think in some ways, it was designed to represent a true business...but structured to fail. Those idiot retirement funds that got into this...screwed their folks over big time.


10 posted on 11/10/2021 7:25:10 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Gen.Blather

That is an interesting look on this. I tend to agree that Xi’s situation is more tenuous than the west likes to think.


11 posted on 11/10/2021 7:33:58 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: C210N
I saw a photo gallery of empty Evergrande buildings last week.

Astounding.

It is possible that Evergrande has several hundred completely empty buildings, or buildings that look complete on the outside but are empty shells on the inside.

12 posted on 11/10/2021 7:38:19 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: C210N

Uh-oh.


13 posted on 11/10/2021 7:40:15 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Leaning Right
At least some of Evergrande‘s bonds had a coupon yield of 9.5%. That’s a pretty fat yield, and I’ll bet it seduced many investors.

They don't call them junk bonds for nothing. They have a place in the mix, but know the risk and eggs and baskets and all that.

14 posted on 11/10/2021 8:02:21 AM PST by seowulf (Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos...Will Durant)
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To: C210N

Boy howdy


15 posted on 11/10/2021 8:03:11 AM PST by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: zeestephen
It is possible that Evergrande has several hundred completely empty buildings, or buildings that look complete on the outside but are empty shells on the inside.

Maybe we can send them our homeless.

16 posted on 11/10/2021 8:04:29 AM PST by seowulf (Civilization begins with order, grows with liberty, and dies with chaos...Will Durant)
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To: House Atreides

Recall when all so-called financial experts were calling China the place to invest?


17 posted on 11/10/2021 8:39:48 AM PST by existentially_kuffer
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To: C210N

Update...

https://www.express.co.uk/finance/city/1520106/global-financial-crash-evergrande-bond-payments


18 posted on 11/11/2021 10:59:17 AM PST by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: C210N; Gen.Blather; Vermont Lt

Of possible interest. Have never heard of WION in India, but showed up on YT first time. Well-spoken, attractive news person. Not airhead irritant.

Gravitas: Why is China not talking about the mysterious blasts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WDqx7znva4

7 minutes, 40 seconds.

WION
3.88M subscribers
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#China #Blasts #Gravitas

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19 posted on 11/13/2021 12:16:00 AM PST by Norski (Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil. - Thomas Mann)
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To: Norski

That was a well constructed post. I’m impressed!

I don’t know if Gravitas is connected with the Indian government or, it’s like news agencies when news agencies tried to inform the public on important subjects, but also put a pro-American spin on them because they saw themselves as American first and news agencies second. Or, perhaps guys like Edward R. Murrow simply were patriots and wanted everyone they spoke with to see the world through their patriotic lens. Regardless of bias, I think Gravitas tries to present the news but it definitely has a heavy dose of curry on it.

If you call them up and watch the segments one after the other you’ll see what I mean. This isn’t to say that they don’t present the news well and they do carry important stories that aren’t available anywhere else. But the anti-China sentiment fairly well drips off the presentation. While I consider myself anti-China I think the news agency’s spin that China is on their last legs is probably wrong, or at least highly optimistic. But they do round out any subject as part of the well informed person’s search for what is truth...or, at least what is real. (Truth being a bit too philosophical where real can actually kill you.)


20 posted on 11/13/2021 5:20:33 AM PST by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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