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Ted Cruz wants Texas to SECEDE if 'things become hopeless' in the US
The Hill ^ | 11/08/21 04:53 PM EST | BY SARAKSHI RAI -

Posted on 11/08/2021 2:14:32 PM PST by RandFan

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) said that Texas should secede if Democrats "fundamentally" destroy the U.S. but added that "he is not ready to give up on America yet."

"If the Democrats end the filibuster, if they fundamentally destroy the country, if they pack the Supreme Court, if they make D.C. a state, if they federalize elections if they massively expand voter fraud there may come a point where it's hopeless," Cruz said while speaking at an event at Texas A&M last month.

The Republican senator was responding to a question posed by a student in the crowd who asked him how he felt about the Texas secessionist movement.

"I think Texas has a responsibility to the country, and I'm not ready to give up on America. I love this country," he said.

He also added that Texas has an added responsibility to the U.S. as it is currently "an amazing force keeping America from going off the cliff" and "keeping America grounded in the values that built this country."

However, he emphasized that the country isn't at that point where Texas would secede and while he doesn't support the movement, he "understands the sentiment behind it."

"We're not there yet, and if there comes a point where it's hopeless, then I think we take NASA, we take the military, we take the oil," the Texan said.

He jokingly added that popular podcaster Joe Rogan would be president of the newly formed state if it were independent.

The Texas Nationalist Movement or "Texit" has said their mission is "to secure and protect the political, cultural and economic independence of the nation of Texas and to restore and protect a constitutional Republic and the inherent rights of the people of Texas."

The movement's official website stated that this "means that Texans determine our own laws and not 2.5 million unelected bureaucrats in Washington. It means that we get a government that begins and ends at the borders of Texas."


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cruz; sedition; texas
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I would fully support Texas' right to self-determination although I fear it would begin CW2 as the feds would never allow it...
1 posted on 11/08/2021 2:14:32 PM PST by RandFan
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To: RandFan

Well it’s already the beginnings of a Civil War with all the edicts of a tyrannical Federal Gov.


2 posted on 11/08/2021 2:18:17 PM PST by dpetty121263
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To: RandFan
can we make Texas bigger?...like the entire middle of the country?.....

we can not live peacefully with these branch covidian leftists.

3 posted on 11/08/2021 2:18:42 PM PST by cherry
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To: RandFan

My thought exactly — an invitation to the Feds to initiate a civil war. Picture our incontinent president in a stovepipe hat.


4 posted on 11/08/2021 2:19:30 PM PST by Blurb2350 (posted from my 1500-watt blow dryer)
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To: RandFan

Is there not a provision from the beginning of Texas’ statehood that they could leave the union at any point they wish?


5 posted on 11/08/2021 2:19:44 PM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: RandFan

28th Amendment: a process for removing States from the Union.

Shouldn’t be that hard to get 38 legislatures to pass it: go to the blue states and tell them they can remove TX; go to the red states and tell them they can remove CA.


6 posted on 11/08/2021 2:21:06 PM PST by decal (MOLON JABE)
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To: RandFan

Another hit piece by the Hill.
Cruz never specifically said this.


7 posted on 11/08/2021 2:21:26 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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I would fully support Texas' right to self-determination although I fear it would begin CW2 as the feds would never allow it...

It won't be just Texas.

8 posted on 11/08/2021 2:22:25 PM PST by eastexsteve
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To: RandFan

This is the best thing Ted has ever said. He’s come a long way from Horse 🐴 Face.


9 posted on 11/08/2021 2:22:55 PM PST by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: RandFan

If it comes to that, Texas wouldn’t be alone.

God forbid that we can’t settle our differences peacefully.


10 posted on 11/08/2021 2:23:04 PM PST by Nathan _in_Arkansas (Hoist the black flag and begin slitting throats. )
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Another hit piece by the Hill. Cruz never specifically said this.

He actually did say this in a roundabout way in a live town hall. I heard him.

11 posted on 11/08/2021 2:23:46 PM PST by eastexsteve
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To: Pilgrim's Progress
No - the Supremes said so in Texas v White. It'll take an amendment.
12 posted on 11/08/2021 2:23:48 PM PST by decal (MOLON JABE)
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I fear it would begin CW2 as the feds would never allow it...

The leftist social engineers have already divided the country - not on regional lines, but they have divided state against statel, county against county, urban vs. rural on ideological lines. This time their enemy would be spread out everywhere.

Moreover, America has a vast, bloated, lumbering bureaucracy weighed down by massive debt, based in urban areas. One kick and a massive currency and debt crisis ensues. Fed.gov will be able to support its own existence. Urban, blue areas would be the first to fail.

13 posted on 11/08/2021 2:23:49 PM PST by PGR88
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To: dpetty121263

Hard to deny that.


14 posted on 11/08/2021 2:24:22 PM PST by proust (All posts made under this handle are, for the intents and purposes of the author, considered satire.)
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"If the Democrats end the filibuster, if they fundamentally destroy the country, if they pack the Supreme Court, if they make D.C. a state, if they federalize elections if they massively expand voter fraud there may come a point where it's hopeless," Cruz said while speaking at an event at Texas A&M last month.

That is their wish list. If it comes to pass it's all over for The Republic.

15 posted on 11/08/2021 2:25:03 PM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Suppo)
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To: RandFan

If Texas goes, We in Alabama should go, too, along with several southeastern states. Commie Rats have gone crazy. They are about to pull us all over the cliff


16 posted on 11/08/2021 2:25:37 PM PST by RatRipper (The Biden Adm is leading an attack against US citizens . . . pure evil.)
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To: Pilgrim's Progress

I don’t think so. The state was admitted with the provision that it could be divided into as many as five different states if it wanted to. There’s some discussion about whether this is just what any state could do if Congress approves, or if the provision is Congressional “pre-approval” for dividing the state when ever it wants.


17 posted on 11/08/2021 2:26:42 PM PST by x
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To: RandFan

It sounds more like he’s saying that he doesn’t want Texas to secede.


18 posted on 11/08/2021 2:27:28 PM PST by x
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To: RandFan

Would it be a secession if Texas was annexed? Would it be a de-annexation?


19 posted on 11/08/2021 2:29:54 PM PST by frogjerk (I will not do business with fascists)
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To: JonPreston

Yeah—I have never been a fan of Ted, but his comments seemed very reasonable. It sounds like he has given this a lot of thought.

I am impressed.


20 posted on 11/08/2021 2:30:12 PM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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