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Ted Cruz wants Texas to SECEDE if 'things become hopeless' in the US
The Hill ^ | 11/08/21 04:53 PM EST | BY SARAKSHI RAI -

Posted on 11/08/2021 2:14:32 PM PST by RandFan

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) said that Texas should secede if Democrats "fundamentally" destroy the U.S. but added that "he is not ready to give up on America yet."

"If the Democrats end the filibuster, if they fundamentally destroy the country, if they pack the Supreme Court, if they make D.C. a state, if they federalize elections if they massively expand voter fraud there may come a point where it's hopeless," Cruz said while speaking at an event at Texas A&M last month.

The Republican senator was responding to a question posed by a student in the crowd who asked him how he felt about the Texas secessionist movement.

"I think Texas has a responsibility to the country, and I'm not ready to give up on America. I love this country," he said.

He also added that Texas has an added responsibility to the U.S. as it is currently "an amazing force keeping America from going off the cliff" and "keeping America grounded in the values that built this country."

However, he emphasized that the country isn't at that point where Texas would secede and while he doesn't support the movement, he "understands the sentiment behind it."

"We're not there yet, and if there comes a point where it's hopeless, then I think we take NASA, we take the military, we take the oil," the Texan said.

He jokingly added that popular podcaster Joe Rogan would be president of the newly formed state if it were independent.

The Texas Nationalist Movement or "Texit" has said their mission is "to secure and protect the political, cultural and economic independence of the nation of Texas and to restore and protect a constitutional Republic and the inherent rights of the people of Texas."

The movement's official website stated that this "means that Texans determine our own laws and not 2.5 million unelected bureaucrats in Washington. It means that we get a government that begins and ends at the borders of Texas."


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cruz; sedition; texas
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To: ro_dreaming
Texas can break into 5 separate states if it wishes, though.

They could have done that after annexation but prior to becoming a state. Once admitted they are governed by the same clause of the Constitution as every other state which requires Congressional approval to split up.

121 posted on 11/09/2021 3:52:26 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
What engineering company in Texas has experience building one nuclear power plant recently, much less able to build 10 in 10 years.

Ok you are projecting. That situation is permanent? Hell no. Your static thinking is stupid, stultifying. Nuclear power technology is world wide and well know. Texas has nuke plants now. If they had to, which they wouldn't, the French could design the the thing. What ever it takes.

122 posted on 11/09/2021 3:52:57 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

You know, it’s almost worth watching Texas secede just to watch all these crazy predictions come to naught.


123 posted on 11/09/2021 3:55:07 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Unshackled from DC Texas would bloom like a rose. It would be amazing to watch for sure.


124 posted on 11/09/2021 4:17:43 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va
Unshackled from DC Texas would bloom like a rose. It would be amazing to watch for sure.

LOL!

125 posted on 11/09/2021 4:31:09 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
LOL!

You think that is funny you f'd up pr1ck?

126 posted on 11/09/2021 4:32:55 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va
You think that is funny you f'd up pr1ck?

I think it's hilarious.

127 posted on 11/09/2021 5:19:11 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: RandFan

I’ll join that war. Enough is enough.


128 posted on 11/09/2021 6:37:03 AM PST by GingisK
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To: DoodleDawg

Although Texas *IS* different, as they have the approval already. It was in the document when Texas an the United States unified the two separate distinct countries.


129 posted on 11/09/2021 6:55:42 AM PST by ro_dreaming ("We seem to have gone from 'We the people' to 'Me, the president' in a scant 8 months." - Me)
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To: DrHFrog

Yes, the contract that holds us together as a nation has been broken, and it wasn’t us who broke it.


130 posted on 11/09/2021 7:57:31 AM PST by SuzyQue
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To: central_va

Now that’s funny. I’ll bet you really think you put me down
there.

No, you merely destroyed yourself.


131 posted on 11/09/2021 10:12:55 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Democrats, fixing things that haven't been broken, so they don't work, for over 197 years.)
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To: central_va

I don’t believe I addressed Texas having to fight the blue
states to break away, so I’m not sure what relevance this
has in regard to my comments.


132 posted on 11/09/2021 10:26:48 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Democrats, fixing things that haven't been broken, so they don't work, for over 197 years.)
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To: x

The Left has joined China essentially.

Every decision that is made is made with thought of how it
will please or disturb China.

Look at them flock to climate change summits, where the U. S.
is torched, and China is ignored.

The Left could care less.

I have a very hard time seeing the blue state nation coming
to the defense of the red state nation should China chose
to take military action against it.


133 posted on 11/09/2021 10:30:07 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Democrats, fixing things that haven't been broken, so they don't work, for over 197 years.)
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To: ro_dreaming
It was in the document when Texas an the United States unified the two separate distinct countries.

Any state in the Union could split into five separate states...so long a the legislature and Congress approve it.

134 posted on 11/09/2021 10:35:09 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: central_va

Hi Central VA, glad to see that you’re pouring on the charm.

Note that when I use the term “silly” when referring to secession, I’m simply being polite because using the term “idiotic” tends to shut down reasoned debate. Perhaps I need to rethink that? Maybe I should just go ahead and call secession what it is; idiotic and seditious.


135 posted on 11/09/2021 3:45:45 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Culture, culture, culture. Not politics. )
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To: DoodleDawg

“You know, it’s almost worth watching Texas secede just to watch all these crazy predictions come to naught.”

Ain’t gonna happen. But it is amusing to see keyboard revolutionaries get themselves all excited. I guess they’re just going to ignore the practical issues like dealing with parts of the state that want nothing to do with their neo-secessionist utopia.


136 posted on 11/09/2021 3:55:24 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Culture, culture, culture. Not politics. )
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To: RKBA Democrat

What is idiotic is thinking that we are not now delving into tyranny as 50 state union.


137 posted on 11/10/2021 9:50:01 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

“What is idiotic is thinking that we are not now delving into tyranny as 50 state union.”

No arguments there. The question is what do do. POLITICAL secession is a fool’s errand. Cultural divorce on the other hand is attainable and if you think about it, a necessary precursor to meaningful political change.


138 posted on 11/10/2021 7:12:00 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Culture, culture, culture. Not politics. )
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To: RKBA Democrat
The question is what do do. POLITICAL secession is a fool’s errand.

So say you, a craven idiot.

139 posted on 11/11/2021 3:05:46 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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